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01-31-2010   #21 (permalink)
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Lol this is just getting a little off topic.

But to the answer to the original question about why Powerful over Phantom, and if it's worth it:

So by now, people realize that Powerful has a higher magnification than Phantom at level 11. Higher Magnification and guaranteed decent LK on the staff is a very good incentive for most people already, but here's a spoiler. If/when we get the refinement upgrade up until level 13, one could only imagine the magnification for Powerful EQ. So the incentive is that, the magnification ratio would be even higher than Boss Unique Equips out. Phantom doesn't come close.

To a lot of characters that are near end-game, we all realize that our EQ are basically keepsakes, and would spent as much as necessary to max out its potential, because we don't plan on upgrading or it is unavailable at the moment. I really doubt that Powerful would be out competed by another equipment in the near future, so it's a good investment. For others that aren't at that stage yet, a decently refine of Phantom may be satisfactory. Of course you can't say a Phantom level 11 isn't really nice, but relatively speaking, it's not as nice as Powerful.
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Oh, I see now.
I guess I won't go to phantom dungeon and hunt phantom sticks anymore.
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o.o Didn't know the multipliers caught up after +8... What's the multiplier at +11?
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Multplier at 11 is 2.88, theoretical multiplier at level 13 is 4.8. Compared with Phantom at 11 is 2.62 and I didn't even bother calculating the level 13 magnification.
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So a powerful item's last three refine levels give huge boosts? What're the refine success chances like?
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Unsure at the moment because the level 13 system hasn't been implemented. I got the level 13 refine magnification through extrapolation.

And the refine rate for Powerful at level 11 is 4% (3% for Phantom) but this SHOULD all change when the refine is extended, as shown on jTO.
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Thanks for all the info :x

The refine multipliers did not change after +13 was implemented as the new max, though? And for "the last three levels" I meant +9, +10, and +11... I think I saw the same +8 powerful staff the poster on the first page saw - are the refine bonuses just lame until at least +8? (Not that I'd mind going past that, of course...)
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Powerful:
9: 1.92
10: 2.24
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Aha. Thanks for the info o.o
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