Approximately 1k to 1.2k MA. That means approximately 750 to 800 MA base.
Although you said not to mention Powerful Sticks, I will because a significant part of the MA needed comes from the weapon slot.
You will probably need MS equipments in every slot not called weapon/hat/shield. That means getting the highest mask, and floating equips possible. Vests, accessories, and capes from MS are also needed. Same for pets. You do not need a MS sprint if you have decent equips elsewhere, but it always helps, of course.
Do not expect to kill them in one hit without using Powerfuls and MS equips at all. You need one or the other, preferably a mixture of both as it decreases the need of great comps or refine level.
Finally, a good shield refined for DP and comped for HP helps a lot, although if you go Light hybrid that is not really needed if you have decent MA. 1441 is the best build as it allows you to carry the most potions, a WT pouch on top always helps.
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