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Question What character for Compounding?

I was thinking about making a character for mature compounding, is there a specific class that raises the rates? I've read around and saw that sense types are normally what your looking for but which, fox or lion?
 
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LK for compounding is a lie, it doesnt work all the time...its completely random so dont bother making a pure lk fox or something. a few lk eq's and around 120lk should be enough to avoid getting a min lol
 
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LK for compounding is a lie, it doesnt work all the time...its completely random so dont bother making a pure lk fox or something. a few lk eq's and around 120lk should be enough to avoid getting a min lol
Lies! With 500 LK, I still get bare minimum. ):
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It doesn't matter what class you have. This is pretty much the final answer.
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You pretty much just answered your own questions.

Everyone has their own comping theory and yours will not be the same as other people.
For example, I took my friends about my theory that always gave me mid to near max comps. They tested it and got pure mins.

You're going to need to do a trial testing with your own theories and see which works for you. Test on low level gears and see what comps seem good. Some people say that testing on these low level gears may give you nice comps but when you get to higher level gears, the comps suck. It depends. :x
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Believe me and compound equips NAKED. It depends on REAL LIFE LUCK
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There's a post on the official forums about skill bugs. Someone posted about the compounding mastery not working correctly, which is very true.

In Japanese version of TO, I heard that the mastery actually helps. So who knows, it might get fixed soon. In that sense, making a sense might not hurt.
 
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I usually just comp with whatever I've got on with whichever character, my bun, lion, and dragon have all got decent comps. Still have mins from time to time, so think it's real life luck as has been said plenty of times.
 
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There's a post on the official forums about skill bugs. Someone posted about the compounding mastery not working correctly, which is very true.

In Japanese version of TO, I heard that the mastery actually helps. So who knows, it might get fixed soon. In that sense, making a sense might not hurt.
Knowing how the company has run Trickster for the past however long years, that's unlikely they'll update it to mirror another version.

The reason? Money hungry company. They want to ensure you usually get crap comps so it makes you spend money to buy Nates/Elixirs. They also hold those "improved" compound/upgrade events just to possibly trick you (or I could be wrong).
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People seem to forget that there's another thing called compounding, which is what the skill helps.

If it's true that it helps with mature compounding in jTO or any other Trickster, I have yet to hear about it and would like to see proof of it.

But yes, real life luck is the only way to get good comps I believe. But, people do have their theories, like a certain amount of lk or da, or a certain time to do it at.
 
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Believe me and compound equips NAKED. It depends on REAL LIFE LUCK
So i must be naked ? i'm kinda lost here, in Real Life or In Game ?
 
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Did anyone forgot the official answer from ETO that sounds like this? (I dont quite remember)

"The formula for mature compounding is closed guarded secret, and it is working as it is intended to be"

And as for OP, before the first Compounding Event, Sense Character with the skill really able to compound more than average, but now, its just above min, most of the time.
Though my experience tells me, after one or two Nate's bottle, ill get more than medium value. Its the same with Shara's bottle. First Hardant 150 (6-18), i got 6, second hardant after Shara's bottle, I got 16
 
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There's a post on the official forums about skill bugs. Someone posted about the compounding mastery not working correctly, which is very true.

In Japanese version of TO, I heard that the mastery actually helps. So who knows, it might get fixed soon. In that sense, making a sense might not hurt.
That was actually my post ^^.

Well guys, yes. I can say with 100% sure that the compound results depends on real life luck.

The reason I think they made that post in trickster forums is because, when the new skills updates comes out they plan to fix broken skills as well.

I've been comping for a long long time and, answering your question: The only characters that should have an advantage related to mature compounding actually doesn't have any.

As I said, the next new skills update is my last hope to see these skills fixed.

Some tricks I learned:

LK around 50 will give you almost 99% of the time, a minimal result. And 1% of the time a hax result that not even the other LK amounts can reach, very close to the max.(I tested this only on life vests though)
Low values around 100 LK has a small chance of hax results. (Mostly bad results)
High amount of LK works better if you are compounding high ranges values like HP/MP/WT/AP/MD
200 LK has smaller chances of hax results and the high ranges results are random. (Mostly bad results)
LK between 1050-1100 has also small chances of hax results (slightly better than around 100LK)
After 500 LK you still get bad results but less often, more like low-med and med results.

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Here is a translation of the experiment by one of kTO GMs (it was done for a monthly article for the website). Hope this helps!
 

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