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fuses in what...Pet or Equips...???

and I have to say the reason why it more money if anything...there more people Playing Trickster Fantasia and Jewelia....more people mean more money right o.o???
if less people the price will go down...does that make any sense...-.- ?
 
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There could be many reasons, probably many that I'm unaware of, but my best guess is a mix between greed, and the US dollar slowly losing it's value.

Also from what I've noticed recently, MS hat fuses have generally been way more expensive than other parts of the set (like shield, sword). e.g. Practically everyone asking 50~80m for a Tacky hat. Same sort of thing happened with Kitsu hat (ears lol).

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There's no way to stop it really, because people WILL buy for those prices so everyone else won't sell any lower

People who sell MS are the money makers in game, they can buy anything and sell a meer Gacha Coin for 15m..

I posted a rant about this ages ago, everyone replied saying it was a mix of greed and desperation, etc etc

A few people can't stop this, we need everyone to stop. Like before - people started selling MS on here for 1k = 7mil, but you see the same amount of replies on a thread selling 1k = 15m... one person can and will throw the economy over even if lots of people are selling cheap... I remember who started the 4G fuse inflation ~_~
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well, people often offer a crazy amount of galder for the stuff they are looking for... so I'd say that maybe prices are so high because some tricksters are very rich, while the poor ones overprice the items they sell to try to make the same money? @_@
 
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This price jumping is terrible D:

I think it is happening because some people can get money easily in this game, so for them its like money "loses value" and they will want more money for something that should be worth less.

And if you think about people selling myshop, the rates are really high now, they can get easy money by selling ms. I understand if the rates go up when some good lolboxes are out but the problem is that there are people willing to pay all that when there aren't lolboxes. So once there is demand, there will be sellers and they will sell myshop for even higher rates.
If myshop rates go up, the price of fuses will go up as well.

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Im my point of view people are just valuing their own money, since everything in this game is based on real world money it's completely normal that one charges high prices for myshop items, you have to understand that galders are easier to make than real world money, I know most players spent their parent's money so for them it's no big deal, but for a worker every penny counts in the end of the month.
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people OR Tricksters in General...need to think between WANT and NEED...I mean is it really worth it ???...well for some things yes but I just see lots of foolish fools spending there money foolishly...XD I mean one time I want a Gold Sword and once I got it...I soon later felt like it was so not worth it...that when I realize and then become more thurrow with my choices...I mean yea I WANT the primrose or tacky hat but I don't NEED it cuz idk WT issue or something XD...for now I just want to level till my character feels ready to want whatever they want...I think most player start wanting whatever like 200 or at least 180 Level base =/ or something ('- ')...
 
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Yep, every time I want a fuse or anything now, the prices just shoot up stupidly. I don't even bother anymore. I guess the only good thing to come out of this is that it makes me stop wasting my galders on fuses that I KNOW I will wear only once and only try to resell later because I realise I don't like them.
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It's just a fuse. No one really needs it.

But you really do need to look at supply and demand here. Cause it depends what fuse you're talking about. Of course an ugly (lol) fuse would cost less than "80m". I think it's just an over exaggeration on your part cause it sounds like you're talking about all fuses in general.

Supply? Demand is high. Tacky and primrose items are absolutely adorable (aside from some of primrose's items, IMO). More people buy, the less supply there is in the market.

You can't really use the 1k = 7m conversion either because you aren't buying sheer points. You're buying the most favored item from a random item generator (RIG in gaia), and a popular one at that. It's like saying that a lottery's prize should cost the same as a lottery ticket. Not going to happen.

Anyway, I'm just going to assume that the inflated price is because of the popularity of the items so far. It will probably deflate farther into the lolboxes, and raise back afterwards. Sure, it jumped. But hey, there's a good reason for that. And it isn't always "greed". Seller mentality isn't the only one that's corrupt here. (And if you aren't only talking about the current myshop items, then I suggest you just wait it out. o_o; Might just be a temporary bump in prices, who knows?)



But I do agree that it's overpriced at the moment. But that's just my opinion. ><;

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Inflation's happening in RL too, it's not gonna stop =x Look at gas prices.
 
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the way I see it I don't think they should compare prices from Real Life Money regardless of value...this is a Game of Virtual and Digital lolz... but Cereal thow it a Game that difference...Galder is money yes but that gaming Side....in real life it Call Bills and I don't think I'm making any sense here >.>....anyway the point I'm making they shouldn't be compare Galder and Money and Myshop !

althow still it not the market I believe...it how people want to sell how much they want it to...I mean someone want to sell it a Blood Sword Clean for 130 Mill even thow the so-call-true-value-is 180+ Mill =/...that what just everyone (at least that what I'm thinking) think it worth and stuff...which makes sense in a way...

I think I made a little more sense now yet it uncertain....=___=...
 
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Boss equips seem to be going up a lot as well, I've been seeing Pharoah hats going for over 10 mil now. They used to be only about 2 or less. Plus SC 15/16 (especially the 16) are a lot more then when they were first released. Which sucks, cause it's really hard to afford a guardian now.
 
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It doesnt matter if there are people who are willing to buy them.

You guys will never understand if you guys are not the first hand who use real money to buy MyShop items.

600m for 4g5 is ridiculous LOW prices if you even had a chance to try placing your luck for that in the last Special Town ($100 may not enough to get f*cking Lina)

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People always say that myshop is real money, but if you check Fantasia' myshop rate, it really different. I don't understand, but Fantasia have less people, that means, more rare items, then, higher prices, but look, they're rate are super low.
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Oh yeah. It's real money of someone after all.

Try to get all fuses you want with your real money then may be you understand me more.

But if you said you could get fuses with your in-game money, don't compain then.

You should ask yourself why dont you go Fantasia. Maybe bet you wont have that many friends like Jewelia or maybe dont wanna walk in the "ghost" town?

Look at the value of the same food in your country in the capital city and countryside.
 
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i started trickster the 2nd week of april or so (well, i started it during beta and played a little in official, but maple pulled me away)... so i'll tread lightly lol

in about a month of playing, i haven't really tried to merch much and i've collected about 50m. which is way different from the old trickster i remember

its made me develop the opinion that it dosent seem very difficult to make money?

i agree some of the prices you guys have been listing for myshop sounds way expensive, but if i can make that much in such a short time and not really be trying pre say... i'd imagine most higher levels/active players must be making a fair amount of money in game.

price will reflect how much currency is in the marketplace, so it all becomes relative even if your speaking in pretty big numbers.

inflation is a huge problem in almost all the free mmo's that are even somewhat popular. trickster seems a bit harder to keep pace with from what i've seen because of these new sets constantly coming out...

theres always going to be a wave of people with money who want the next set of items to take the place of the previous buyers. this is where it might be nice to slow down the box releases. i can also see the point that the game operator might be pressed getting people to charge lately. most games are being very aggressive with item selling right now.

on topic: i know im doing whatever i can to get the tacky collection xD

most of what i've seen from online games and all the inflation in general comes back to the same story. people do not have the same amount of money to spend that they once did.

even if they do, i know many people from my more active spots (la tale, maple, mabi) who are now very adamant about spending less on the games they play. even if its just for savings and making a point of not "wasting" the money. this seems to be a general idea happening everywhere though.

cash shop points of any kind in almost all the mmo's i play have gone sky high. there's few sellers. when you do find one its typically small amounts. your dealing with a general game population that isn't pumping the amount of real dollars into the game that they used to; yet everyone still wants the paid items. which gives you the insane asking prices in all these games.

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^ I like the comment above

The one who keeps buying MyShop points in-game keeps buying them.

But what if there are less and less MS seller? You know what's the chain consequences.

I sold 15, 16, 16.5m:1k to Haon so many times before I deleted my characters.

He keeps buying from me even I rise the prices. That's telling me even Haon had a hard time seeking MS sellers.

And you guys telling me what's important to get hax and cool? Powerfuls, fuses, 4g stuff, lolboxes, of course those timed acc, repair powders, gold temper gem, and you name it.

The majority of beautiful stuff is from MyShop so it's no doubt why it's getting more expensive because less and less people play and willing to spend real money on the game but more wanna buy them using in-game galders.

Look at the powerfuls; how many powders you guys need to get it to lvl 11 12 13. At least A LOT.
And people still wanna buy them using galders

Look at the lolboxes; how many boxes you have to open to get a set. I would say 8+ boxes and how many temper gems you guys have to use to get haxxest. And you guys still wanna buy them all in galders.

You get the idea

Everything is based on MyShop and you guys wanna buy them ALL with galders, Not the real world money.

That's why the stuff is so expensive. Demand of MyShop is super high, but supply is getting lower and lower

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Oh yeah. It's real money of someone after all.

Try to get all fuses you want with your real money then may be you understand me more.

But if you said you could get fuses with your in-game money, don't compain then.

You should ask yourself why dont you go Fantasia. Maybe bet you wont have that many friends like Jewelia or maybe dont wanna walk in the "ghost" town?

Look at the value of the same food in your country in the capital city and countryside.
I'm just saying that why is the rate of Fantasia is so low even if there are less people. So, people there could balance things up, the things there sell for low prices, but, they could still buy things with those prices since, all of the items have low prices. In jewelia, newbies cant really make a big money, and also, i know alot of people there that already have alot of money, but still, they wanted overprice. I'm saying that,Jewelia is a bit unbalance on the rates, etc.


Also, if I look at the prices of my country, I know why it raise, thatis because my country is very corrupted.
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