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Again we're talking about supply and demand here, more people playing and demanding things to buy, more price jumping.
In Fantasia the demanding is way more limited than in Jewelia, so naturally the supply is smaller compared to the populated Jewelia, these market rules exists in every single capitalist economy in the world, it's not different in a MMO even because we play in a CASH BASED MMO, so different from other MMORPGS like WoW or Aion, where the economy is mostly created and designed around the virtual world reality and it items and gold, here we are bound to spend some money to obtain advantage, then the game economy is largely dictated by real world money.
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Boss equips seem to be going up a lot as well, I've been seeing Pharoah hats going for over 10 mil now. They used to be only about 2 or less. Plus SC 15/16 (especially the 16) are a lot more then when they were first released. Which sucks, cause it's really hard to afford a guardian now.
I can vouch for that. I needed a SC 16 for my bunny's guardian a while ago and I was originally only going to go as high as 200m for it. Pretty much when I found a seller and they told me to offer and I said 200m, they laughed at me. "There's a shop here selling one for 280m!!!" so because just one shop was selling SC 16 overpriced by 80m, she wanted that price, but since I refused to go that high and said I'd settle on 250m, she wanted 260... as you can imagine my blood was boiling at her greed...

The fact that I caved in and bought it anyway though just goes to show how people who are desperate to get something will pay stupid prices just to get what they want.
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about 2 weeks ago I bought SC16 for 170m and sold it for 210m in less than 5 minutes.

If you had time to stay in the market long enough, you would get one with lower price.

I also bought SC16 for 250m for my 2nd guardian long ago.

Oftentime you cant blame sellers for selling you expensive stuff; you have to blame yourself you couldnt stay long enough to get what you wanted with your acceptable price range.

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I was afking in mega shop and when I came back, that's what I saw in chat lol



I was looking for a 4g4 a while back and was offering 400m for it (which is like 2x the price it should be). And as far I know, the max sold was 500m and that person was looking to get even more.

It's not even about overpricing anymore but pure greed. Mehhhhh
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As I said, try to get one with your real life money.

You'll see that it does worth more than 500m galders ($40?)
 
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I'm just saying that why is the rate of Fantasia is so low even if there are less people. So, people there could balance things up, the things there sell for low prices, but, they could still buy things with those prices since, all of the items have low prices. In jewelia, newbies cant really make a big money, and also, i know alot of people there that already have alot of money, but still, they wanted overprice. I'm saying that,Jewelia is a bit unbalance on the rates, etc.


Also, if I look at the prices of my country, I know why it raise, thatis because my country is very corrupted.
The more people there are, the more supply of galder there is in the world. This explains simple inflation and deflation of currency.

Galder in Fantasia is just worth more than galder in Jewelia because there are less people in Fantasia who can make a large sum of galder-- and less people (making galder) in general. For certain, there are a lot more high levels in Jewelia than in Fantasia.

You can buy more with Fantasia galder than with Jewelia galder, even though there is a lower supply of rares, etc.
More people will also mean more demand. Less people will mean less demand.

ex: 40m for GLS in Fant, versus GLS for 100+mil in Jewelia.
Yet there aren't as many people who want/need/can afford a GLS in Fant. versus people in Jewelia.

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It's not even about overpricing anymore but pure greed. Mehhhhh
And yeah, pure greed.
Like my hours of hard labor isn't worth nearly as much your hours of playing an online game. Are you kidding me?

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe-- just maybe, that the people buying myshop were always underpricing it?
Like some people theorize, it could be a monkey see monkey do fiasco. One person sells for cheap, and another will too.

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As I said, try to get one with your real life money.

You'll see that it does worth more than 500m galders ($40?)
We make choices, I choose to not spend on this game ( Only time I did was 30$ for bika and didn't even get it ). You can't blame on the amount spent to get a 4g card while you know it's like gambling. We all know how hard it is to complete a town (mostly getting the pet) and it's our decision to keep going or not. And if you're getting coins, generally it's either for the fuse or get the card for personal use, not to sell it at outrageous prices because you've wasted so much.

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Has it ever occurred to you that maybe-- just maybe, that the people buying myshop were always underpricing it?
Like some people theorize, it could be a monkey see monkey do fiasco. One person sells for cheap, and another will too.
I usually buy myshop at x amount, I'd only pay more if I'm in rush. Otherwise i'd rather wait and get a cheaper seller. Well, TBH people buying MS are not underpricing, it's just the common rate it should be. People tend to overprice it because '' I sold x/1k to y, sorry that's too low ''. Buying or selling something at very high price make them think it's actually the market price and all the monkeys out there try to get as much as the one who OP.
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From a buyer's point of view, they call it "pure greed". But isn't it also "greed" trying to underprice something without taking into consideration how hard or expensive it is to acquire something in the first place? Or how rare the supply is while the demand is insurmountably high? Or that selling it for a lower price while there are so many other people willing to pay more (a lot more) for it be tantamount to stupidity?

I'm not saying that the seller is purely without greed. I'm saying that as a buyer, did you see it from the other point of view? Or are you purely clean yourself to call the other party as such?
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So dont blame sellers for "pure greed"; it doesnt make sense.

Seller have choices too.

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Well base on my situation, it is. At that time, 4g4 was about 200-300m(200 being the one that Sharp got not that long ago) and 300m was the one I saw at megalo in a shop (didn't know there was a new 4g set ). I was offering 400m because I wanted that new warrior shield badly so don't tell me it's underpricing while that person was clearly trying to sell it for 600m to me.

Meh anyways, I got it for 400m so i'm happy. Don't get mad people, just saying my point. I do understand both way, but the seller should be aware that i'm already paying more than it should be. Of course it is hard to get it, but hey look at the market situation now. If people have to say that to each single unique, i'd have to pay 1b for a hat or shield clean/unrefined in like 2 weeks if it keeps going on like this? Meh
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Jewelia is just unbalance. Last time, I bought 4G 2 for only 105m, That's just last November, 2010. And look at it now, It's now like, 300m+


I hate it so much ;_;
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Why people dont say buyers are stupid instead of sellers are greed.

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Because, buyers buy with the original price, but sellers always overprice them

ex. I buy a unique for 300m , that is the original price, but then a seller comes offering 350m, or 400m
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Buyers dont buy with original price; they buy the cheaper one.
 
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ALL people want Cheap price. Of Course, why would you offer an overprice to some items, Except if you're desperate.
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Cheaper doesnt mean original, does it?
 
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Yes it doesnt, but When the seller doesnt want the cheap price, then we go to the original price, but the seller will tell them, no that's still to cheap.
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What's original price then?

The price buyers wanna buy only?
 
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I did put an example there , right? The one with 300m
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how can you prove that that 300m is everyone's original price?

What if that's only your "original" price? So you blame seller who wanna sell for 400m greedy, overpriced?
 

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