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View Poll Results: Do you like the new Fiesta?
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Whenever I try to enter fiesta it kicks me back to Azteca.
I see the monsters for like 1 second then it auto warps me out, what's happening?
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I actually like it now because it adds an element of challenge, the only element of challenge in Trickster back: getting good TM.

I also somewhat predict builds getting changed around to be less TM heavy with this new Fiesta being added.
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I tried Fiesta out with my bunny who has no AoEs right now earlier. It was awful.
 
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Whenever I try to enter fiesta it kicks me back to Azteca.
I see the monsters for like 1 second then it auto warps me out, what's happening?
I tried to enter in the higher-level monster room that's enabled after 5 minutes, and I got instantly ported back to Mega. It happened three times =/
 
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The new Fiesta is different from the last one that's sure. If in general asked if like the new Fiesta then yes. Why? Because now it's every day. However what I didn't like in the new fiesta is the too high base(well some love it) and the fact is every 2 hours.
I guess that time thing hurts the most. It's like "want to Fiesta? then play for 2 hours until the next one."
 
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Whenever I try to enter fiesta it kicks me back to Azteca.
I see the monsters for like 1 second then it auto warps me out, what's happening?
I just went to Fiesta now, well tried to, and this exact same thing happened to me. :<
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ugh it ports me back to where i entered Fiesta too o.o....did anyone report this?
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I actually love the new Fiesta. I do not mind grinding but gaining a level every two days by killing mobs for 40 min only seems to me to be a pretty sweet and balanced deal.

I think that more time than that would make Fiesta broken - why grind or quest when you can get a level or more everyday without doing anything really?

I wished that both Fiestas could be kept up, though, as there are not many ways to level TM decently. In the other hand, it seems to me that Grass drop rates were increased (personal experience), so collecting Panaceas and other grasses should not be a too gruesome task now.
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I got kicked back to where I was before as soon as I entered the Ball Room too... Twice. On the third try it worked, but that was the last Fiesta ticket I had on that character.

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New fiesta not comparing to the old one is good and balanced. If you want to change something then add both advantage and disadvantage to make it still balanced and abuse proof. We probably don't want to complain in future that easy lvling in fiesta and ms destroyed Trickster.

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I'm sorry? I didn't know that patiently staying in Fiesta for weeks, actually WORKING on your TM was abuse, it's not like it's easy you know, Vicksy and I were in Fiesta since level 70 and we both got to level 140 by doing NOTHING but Fiesta, I don't see how that's "abuse", it's called working your -beep- off to be different from the rest, because we wanted to stay low level and have a high TM level, we had the right to.

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I actually love the new Fiesta. I do not mind grinding but gaining a level every two days by killing mobs for 40 min only seems to me to be a pretty sweet and balanced deal.

I think that more time than that would make Fiesta broken - why grind or quest when you can get a level or more everyday without doing anything really?

I wished that both Fiestas could be kept up, though, as there are not many ways to level TM decently. In the other hand, it seems to me that Grass drop rates were increased (personal experience), so collecting Panaceas and other grasses should not be a too gruesome task now.
Umm, 25 cycles of Grass quests which give from 1m TM exp to 2m TM exp depending on the quest or 350 cycles a week of a Monster Quest that gives from 600k TM exp to 900k TM exp per cycle? It's not too hard to choose.

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Old Fiesta back please.
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While the new Fiesta and grass quests (you can always buy them off if you don't want to farm) can be done every day, the old Fiesta can be done only once in a while, so while you can have loads of TM exp during the week it is up, not everyone has the time to truly benefit from them (my first time I got 40 TM levels but I killed myself for that; second time I missed completely due to my messed up work schedule).

I personally do not like the fact that Fiesta tickets are still spent, so while 30 tickets were a fair amount to have back in the old days (as you would likely grind there for hours) they are spent up pretty quickly nowadays, they are drillable in places I am not interested in drilling at, and no one seems to sell them anymore >.<

I would keep both Fiestas up, as I stated above ~~

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New fiesta not comparing to the old one is good and balanced. If you want to change something then add both advantage and disadvantage to make it still balanced and abuse proof. We probably don't want to complain in future that easy lvling in fiesta and ms destroyed Trickster.

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Lolabuse, it's not like we're gaining 5k DA or something, everyone can get high TM, we just prefer high TM at a lower level

The reason for the Fiesta kicking is because the message appears 1 minute BEFORE it's about to start... always wait til :06 to go in, and I've noticed that different zones get the message at different times, where I was in one and the message came early, yet my BF and Valese were both in another Fiesta and managed to get the message exactly on time; it's the same with the 2nd room, the message appears early, therefore kicking you out @_@ and I've also noticed that whatever time it shows the message at (let's say :04, it was for me anyway), the timer in the actual Fiesta doesn't tick away until the real time, :06; however I got kicked out at :14 with 2 minutes remaining :x
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While the new Fiesta and grass quests (you can always buy them off if you don't want to farm) can be done every day, the old Fiesta can be done only once in a while, so while you can have loads of TM exp during the week it is up, not everyone has the time to truly benefit from them (my first time I got 40 TM levels but I killed myself for that; second time I missed completely due to my messed up work schedule).

I personally do not like the fact that cards are still spent, so while 30 cards was a fair amount back in the old days (as you would likely grind there for hours) they are spent up pretty quickly nowadays.

I would keep both Fiestas up, as I stated above ~~
That's why Vicksy and I would leave our characters inside the Chaos Tower at said Fiesta Zones, we gave up being able to go out for gaining our hax TM.
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Cards? Am I missing something? o.o
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Fiesta tickets. My mind blanked for a minute so I just used whatever I had in my mind at the moment lol.
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While the new Fiesta and grass quests (you can always buy them off if you don't want to farm) can be done every day, the old Fiesta can be done only once in a while, so while you can have loads of TM exp during the week it is up, not everyone has the time to truly benefit from them (my first time I got 40 TM levels but I killed myself for that; second time I missed completely due to my messed up work schedule).

I personally do not like the fact that cards are still spent, so while 30 cards was a fair amount back in the old days (as you would likely grind there for hours) they are spent up pretty quickly nowadays.

I would keep both Fiestas up, as I stated above ~~
Valid point, but then again, the people who aren't able to play Fiesta 24/7 during the week it is up, most likely won't be able to do it all day every day either. If we eliminate 9am~5pm in a day which is when most people go to school/work, that leaves all the time in the evening for people to be free and play. The only difference is that you're restricted to doing it 2 times per day in this case and the TM exp is nothing compared to what we could've got by doing it multiple times (I won't say "all day") in the past. 10 minutes gives what, 30~40% for most people? I could've got 60~70% during that time with the old Fiesta, since I kill 20 mobs in 10~20 seconds.

In any case, having to wait every 2 hours is the most annoying thing ever. God forbid you aren't dying to go to the bathroom and pissing your pants when it says "Fiesta has started!" or... your mom called you to dinner... or the PC crashed. And SGI expects us to be happy with the inconvenience of this time limit. :x

@Alekky: I guess people would see it as abuse if you leave your characters inside the Chaos Tower. You're not supposed to be able to stay in there and play if they have removed the maps, I guess.
 
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I think he means Fiesta Tickets, but I'm not sure.

Also, while using Fiesta itself was not abusing it, I'm fairly certain staying in the mini-Chaos Towers is abuse of the glitch (which I believe was "fixed" in later Fiestas) that allowed you to return to the Fiesta despite the fact it was not open to the public. d'aw ninja'd by Ameh :c

I have to agree with Lesl. Not everyone could really benefit from the old Fiesta. It was general shit EXP unless you did a whole bunch of it and even then it wasn't that much EXP (base that is). You can argue that everyone needs TMEXP for their skills, but at the same time most skill builds end at late 100's/early 200's in terms of TM levels. Any other TM is for those extra skills that aren't crucial, but you want for fun. Even on my Cyber, my TM is 157 and my base is 171. A horrible gap yes, but I also don't have many skills left that I need, with the last being Sticky Icky. Do I really need this Fiesta to get those last few levels? No. It'd speed up the process, but I'm also in no rush at all. [i lost my train of thought here lolz]

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No, I do not think you would deserve to be banned Vicky or Alex. However, you did technically abuse Fiesta by going in when you weren't supposed to be in. This applies to all other Fiesta-TM-Hoars. If you were in Fiesta while it was "closed" via staying in the Tower maps, yes you abused it. If you worked on your TM while it was open and only while it was open, it's a shame you work has generally been ruined.
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What Lyn & momi said. You are saying you were doing fiesta when you were not supposed to. Or at least failtreev didn't want you to be there.
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Valid point, but then again, the people who aren't able to play Fiesta 24/7 during the week it is up, most likely won't be able to do it all day every day either. If we eliminate 9am~5pm in a day which is when most people go to school/work, that leaves all the time in the evening for people to be free and play. The only difference is that you're restricted to doing it 2 times per day in this case and the TM exp is nothing compared to what we could've got by doing it multiple times (I won't say "all day") in the past. 10 minutes gives what, 30~40% for most people? I could've got 60~70% during that time with the old Fiesta, since I kill 20 mobs in 10~20 seconds.

In any case, having to wait every 2 hours is the most annoying thing ever. God forbid you aren't dying to go to the bathroom and pissing your pants when it says "Fiesta has started!" or... your mom called you to dinner... or the PC crashed. And SGI expects us to be happy with the inconvenience of this time limit. :x

@Alekky: I guess people would see it as abuse if you leave your characters inside the Chaos Tower. You're not supposed to be able to stay in there and play if they have removed the maps, I guess.
Isn't much of an inconvenience. If you plan to do them every day just avoid doing anything while Fiesta is up (for example, 6pm, 8pm, 10pm, etc). I agree that time restrictions are stupid though; allowing people to do both runs anytime of the day (even if it meant waiting one or two hours for the next) would be great.

Regarding % exp, 60% in 10 min, maybe if you have TM 200 or less (was great when my TM was around 170), but last time I checked (250), I needed a full hour to level up my TM. I get now 25% exp/TM in a good run for me, which seems pretty fair to me.
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