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09-25-2010   #21 (permalink)
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Chances are, people who got scammed doesn't look/know about this thread or doesn't use gg all together.
It's up to the player if he/she wants to take the risk anyway, right?
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I suppose. Myshop trading is a risky endeavor in the first place. Our only defense now is out wits...

...and the TO Market thread. I believe it's now time to make full use of the iTrader function. I guess we have this silver lining at least.
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I suppose. Myshop trading is a risky endeavor in the first place. Our only defense now is out wits...

...and the TO Market thread. I believe it's now time to make full use of the iTrader function. I guess we have this silver lining at least.
That is true. We still have iTrader~ !
 
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I suppose. Myshop trading is a risky endeavor in the first place. Our only defense now is out wits...

...and the TO Market thread. I believe it's now time to make full use of the iTrader function. I guess we have this silver lining at least.
but not everyone has itrader and most of the TO community doesn't have ggftw accounts for itrader

although the list hasn't stopped people from scamming it's always been a good reference for me... sad to see it not get updated ;-;
 
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^ It has actually saved some of my friends from being scammed. They generally ask me if ''so and so'' is a scammer and I always look on the thread for them.
The thread itself will continue to exist, just without the support and updates. You can try copy&paste (BOA!) the info into a notepad or some sort so you can refer to it when needed. Of course, it'll only last so long as the list won't be up-to-date unless you do it yourselves.
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...most of the TO community doesn't have ggftw accounts for itrader
I guess we should start telling everyone about how great this site then?
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The thread itself will continue to exist, just without the support and updates. You can try copy&paste (BOA!) the info into a notepad or some sort so you can refer to it when needed. Of course, it'll only last so long as the list won't be up-to-date unless you do it yourselves.
^ Lol...I've copied it when Noe announced this...Just in case :>

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but not everyone has itrader and most of the TO community doesn't have ggftw accounts for itrader

although the list hasn't stopped people from scamming it's always been a good reference for me... sad to see it not get updated ;-;
Perhaps, but we can't expect everything to come so easy now, can we? We had this easy-access scammer list and look what happened. It was just a matter of time I suppose.

Therefore, I guess it's time to advertise. Invite people to join our little community. Get to know the ggftw crowd~ We're generally nice people, aren't we?

And besides, in real life, would you really close a deal with someone you just met in the streets? Or would you rather affiliate yourself with a reputable organization (namely ggftw) and do your business within?

And it'll be harder for scammers to abuse iTrader. We can research the accounts of those who wrote in someone's iTrade and see if they're reputable or just mules. Not to mention that our ever vigilant ggftw crew are on the lookout for multi-accounts.
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== people are annoying. Sucks too see something that people put so much effort into go to waste
Well, shit happens.

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I believe it's time to finally check the IP addresses of those mulitple accounts and see who created them? I'm almost 100% sure you won't find 20 different names. (I'm sure you guys already did last night though..)

And isn't this supposed to show you which 'side' can really be trusted? I didn't post on that thread to avoid unnecessary attention / flaming.. though in the end I have to say the opposition just couldn't handle losing FAIRLY to the whole community and had to show their childish side. So they felt the need to make multiple accounts and 'cheat' their way through.

And accusing the staff of taking sides in this case is pointless, anyone with a brain up there could see they were not taking sides. The opposition was the one that screwed this up, his main account on here got banned and they must be happy now. Cause they're such hypocrites, that did everything to win, lost in count, but won in the end by making you close the scammer thread. But guess what? While going this far doing all of this. They "couldn't care less" ?
 
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Things like this have happened before, its just this one got blown out of proportion >_>
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Things like this have happened before, its just this one got blown out of proportion >_>
Yeah...It end up involving so many staff its not even funny
I can like..count 5 of them straight away.

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...and that is why the poll should never have been made... like I said, it was generating more drama that we even needed. I don't see how anyone could think a "free" poll where it was allowed/fair for people to make new accounts/drag their friends to vote was a good idea at all...
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And accusing the staff of taking sides in this case is pointless, anyone with a brain up there could see they were not taking sides. The opposition was the one that screwed this up, his main account on here got banned and they must be happy now. Cause they're such hypocrites, that did everything to win, lost in count, but won in the end by making you close the scammer thread. But guess what? While going this far doing all of this. They "couldn't care less" ?
@Lyn. Read that.

I don't want a new Scammer Thread, especially not 1 that you would make. The old one was great as it was. The staff that updated it was great. The list was clear. Thank your dear friends for screwing us all over.
 
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Now now, please don't start again. It started with finger pointing and escalated into flame-throwing. And now look at all who got burned...It doesn't matter who "won", but we all "lost" in the end. Let's not repeat the same mistake.

What has happened has happened. The decision is made. It's too late to dwell on it. We should focus instead on what we should do from now on.
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Scammer thread or no, I'm only concerned that people would be more inclined to scam in game now that they won't have to worry about being on the list.

Unless the players themselves create a list, but of what good? That would probably only bring more drama than this since even neutral parties can take sides when it comes to friends.
 
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Oh yes, I was very neutral in all that.. craziness. However, if someone were to look at my profile and go "Oh mah gawd, she's friends with Valese, therefore not neutral D<"
No. I'm neutral. She invited me to be friends, I accepted. Which I would do with most anyone!

For this new Scammer Thread idea discussion thing, I think it would be possible to find a couple of people to update it and remain neutral. I would volunteer for the job, but that more of a "vote a person for that" And we all know how the last thing voted went ahahaha

Anyways! I hope that something will be figured out! It's sad (and funny in a cynical way) to see that all the hard work put into the Scammer Compilation Thread and Scammer Discussion Thread was thrown out all because this one thing was thrown waaaay out of proportion!

This is a very nice community, for the most part, and I'm sure we could come up with something ourselves. We can't always leave it up to the mods to clean up all of our mess. I think we're all more mature than that.



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Scammer thread or no, I'm only concerned that people would be more inclined to scam in game now that they won't have to worry about being on the list.

Unless the players themselves create a list, but of what good? That would probably only bring more drama than this since even neutral parties can take sides when it comes to friends.
I completely agree that when it comes to friends it's hard to remain neutral. But hopefully if everything points to your bestest best friend scamming poor Boy A.. then hopefully the "neutral person" can get over themselves and their friends and say, "Realistically bestest best buddy of mine has scammed poor Boy A, and must go on the scammer list." And if that happens, it only changes other peoples opinion of them, and shows you that maybe some re-evaluating of buddy needs to be done.
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@Lyn. Read that.

I don't want a new Scammer Thread, especially not 1 that you would make. The old one was great as it was. The staff that updated it was great. The list was clear. Thank your dear friends for screwing us all over.
There isnt any need to instigate more drama ==
I think the list should be up to one person rather than a group because groups can create conflicts between each other and make more problems
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