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Ok so for Kens situation he would have ended up with 3.5 in charm from the Profiles + 7,500 HP pots. Making it possibly the highest number, depending on how long he AFK drilled?

Your friend could have done something that raised her power higher, the smallest thing could make a difference. It's hard to say.

Next person who tries a superior should try to make the one they want as closest to 4 as they can and leave the other ones as closest to 3. If it really is random then it won't hurt it anyway as long as its still 3333? Everything with guardians is so precise i think there has to be an explanation. ._.
 
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I do agree that there is 25% chance of getting whatever guardian, but I also think that the last empathy type also affects it. Ex: stopped at power empathy bonus, then hatched and got superior sephirens. Same with the other types maybe?
 
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I can't remember if I had any empathy on my bunny before hatching... but I guess if the meleeing with my attribute somehow made magic have higher stats than the others, it makes sense to me, but I really can't remember.

I hate to ask this again but I feel like I need to make sure, a 4333 build, adding up to just 13 points, is going to give me a normal, no-title Sephirens, right? I think I much prefer the default Sephirens afterall...
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I can't remember if I had any empathy on my bunny before hatching... but I guess if the meleeing with my attribute somehow made magic have higher stats than the others, it makes sense to me, but I really can't remember.

I hate to ask this again but I feel like I need to make sure, a 4333 build, adding up to just 13 points, is going to give me a normal, no-title Sephirens, right? I think I much prefer the default Sephirens afterall...
Yeah I'm pretty sure it will give a normal sephirens. Unless magically you happen to get the extra 5 bonus points and it turns legendary xD
 
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Yeah I'm pretty sure it will give a normal sephirens. Unless magically you happen to get the extra 5 bonus points and it turns legendary xD
Well I wouldn't mind a legendary, she'd match my future Cyber Hunter~ I like my guardians to match my characters. XD My old cats guardian was a legendary Krusef so I made sure my cats equips matched it. My bunny has a superior Spinel and matches her so my lion could match a legendary Sephirens~ Doesn't matter if I don't get one though, a plain white one is still nice to me. 8D

omg I get to make my lion tomorrow I've never been so excited about making a character before -squeeee-
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Well I wouldn't mind a legendary, she'd match my future Cyber Hunter~ I like my guardians to match my characters. XD My old cats guardian was a legendary Krusef so I made sure my cats equips matched it. My bunny has a superior Spinel and matches her so my lion could match a legendary Sephirens~ Doesn't matter if I don't get one though, a plain white one is still nice to me. 8D

omg I get to make my lion tomorrow I've never been so excited about making a character before -squeeee-
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So, if I have this correct~ Superior's stats are 3333 and might be 25% chance of getting the one you want or might be which ever is slightly higher in stat, while still being a 3? (Since no one can/has tested which it is.)

What about Mighty and Legendary forms? I really want a Mighty Krusef for my Dragon. But I don't have the slightest about going about it.
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So, if I have this correct~ Superior's stats are 3333 and might be 25% chance of getting the one you want or might be which ever is slightly higher in stat, while still being a 3? (Since no one can/has tested which it is.)

What about Mighty and Legendary forms? I really want a Mighty Krusef for my Dragon. But I don't have the slightest about going about it.
Mighty is the easiest to get all u need if to get the stats to total 14. Legendary on the other hand i have a theory but I have yet to test it out and I havent been able to mess with anyone's guardian to test it so im trying to make another character myself but if anyone wants to test it will be relatively more difficult.
My theory is that u get a small boost on your guardian when u hatch it. The reason i am thinking this is because usually when we get the stat we want we stop right? So take the effort to get it as high as possible to the next stat. (every 1 point into the stats takes 20 flashes of power/charm/magic/sense) don't get any stats to 6!. highest u get one stat should be to 5 and in order to maximize the boost get it to 19 flashes on all the stats. an example to this would be as followed.

Seph: 5 power 19 flashes, 4 magic 19 flashes, 5 Charm 0 flashes, 0 Sense (cannot flash the last stat u do)
The reason i gave it 0 sense is because sense doesn't really have much to give in my opinion but no stat can be left with a 0 so you get an automatic point there so now all the other stats are at 95% to the next point and if any of them get a 5% boost (1 more flash which is all u need) u get a total of 16 points which is what people believe makes a legendary.

You could easily also argue that going (5 power 19 flashes, 4 magic 19 flashes, 5 Charm 19 flashes, 1 Sense) Because you don't want the boost to only go into Sense and instead have more chances of the other 3 stats to go up instead of just 2 like shown above.

Notice that the build can also be whatever you want even (4334) as long as you get the 3 main stats you want to 19 flashes cause u wont be able to do 19 flashes on one of the stats because maturing will stop at the 14th point.

This seems the most logical way and people may have done this to get a Legendary without noticing themselves but i have yet to prove it. if anyone wishes to use this theory and put it to the test as well it would be most appreciated cause i hate the thought that its completely random.

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Mighty is the easiest to get all u need if to get the stats to total 14. Legendary on the other hand i have a theory but I have yet to test it out and I havent been able to mess with anyone's guardian to test it so im trying to make another character myself but if anyone wants to test it will be relatively more difficult.
My theory is that u get a small boost on your guardian when u hatch it. The reason i am thinking this is because usually when we get the stat we want we stop right? So take the effort to get it as high as possible to the next stat. (every 1 point into the stats takes 20 flashes of power/charm/magic/sense) don't get any stats to 6!. highest u get one stat should be to 5 and in order to maximize the boost get it to 19 flashes on all the stats. an example to this would be as followed.

Seph: 5 power 19 flashes, 4 magic 19 flashes, 5 Charm 0 flashes, 0 Sense (cannot flash the last stat u do)
The reason i gave it 0 sense is because sense doesn't really have much to give in my opinion but no stat can be left with a 0 so you get an automatic point there so now all the other stats are at 95% to the next point and if any of them get a 5% boost (1 more flash which is all u need) u get a total of 16 points which is what people believe makes a legendary.

You could easily also argue that going (5 power 19 flashes, 4 magic 19 flashes, 5 Charm 19 flashes, 1 Sense) Because you don't want the boost to only go into Sense and instead have more chances of the other 3 stats to go up instead of just 2 like shown above.

Notice that the build can also be whatever you want even (4334) as long as you get the 3 main stats you want to 19 flashes cause u wont be able to do 19 flashes on one of the stats because maturing will stop at the 14th point.

This seems the most logical way and people may have done this to get a Legendary without noticing themselves but i have yet to prove it. if anyone wishes to use this theory and put it to the test as well it would be most appreciated cause i hate the thought that its completely random.
Empathy Points is the correct term for what you call Flashes :P But anyway, if you check out this thread:

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People were posting their Guardian builds/titles and what they did to achieve said build and a lot of Legendary titles are only 14 points. One on the first page is only 13. Some also got bonus points increasing their build, but others did not. So, I'd say test cautiously knowing that people have gotten a Legendary in ways that differ from your theory.
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Mighty is the easiest to get all u need if to get the stats to total 14. Legendary on the other hand i have a theory but I have yet to test it out and I havent been able to mess with anyone's guardian to test it so im trying to make another character myself but if anyone wants to test it will be relatively more difficult.
My theory is that u get a small boost on your guardian when u hatch it. The reason i am thinking this is because usually when we get the stat we want we stop right? So take the effort to get it as high as possible to the next stat. (every 1 point into the stats takes 20 flashes of power/charm/magic/sense) don't get any stats to 6!. highest u get one stat should be to 5 and in order to maximize the boost get it to 19 flashes on all the stats. an example to this would be as followed.

Seph: 5 power 19 flashes, 4 magic 19 flashes, 5 Charm 0 flashes, 0 Sense (cannot flash the last stat u do)
The reason i gave it 0 sense is because sense doesn't really have much to give in my opinion but no stat can be left with a 0 so you get an automatic point there so now all the other stats are at 95% to the next point and if any of them get a 5% boost (1 more flash which is all u need) u get a total of 16 points which is what people believe makes a legendary.

You could easily also argue that going (5 power 19 flashes, 4 magic 19 flashes, 5 Charm 19 flashes, 1 Sense) Because you don't want the boost to only go into Sense and instead have more chances of the other 3 stats to go up instead of just 2 like shown above.

Notice that the build can also be whatever you want even (4334) as long as you get the 3 main stats you want to 19 flashes cause u wont be able to do 19 flashes on one of the stats because maturing will stop at the 14th point.

This seems the most logical way and people may have done this to get a Legendary without noticing themselves but i have yet to prove it. if anyone wishes to use this theory and put it to the test as well it would be most appreciated cause i hate the thought that its completely random.
I kinda get where you're going with the flash or "experience" gained to each stat before the 14 point matured build. I've only tried this with 1 stat and it didn't work, but I'm not saying that your theory is wrong. Just needs some testing, which is hard since in-game guardian seeds aren't expendable and testing with myshop would be expensive.
 
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Just letting you all know me and a friend used this method and we both got the superior we wanted. (: So unless we both got lucky this is the method to use. I didn't get super close to 4, I used 1,750 pots to get my power the highest.
 
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Just letting you all know me and a friend used this method and we both got the superior we wanted. (: So unless we both got lucky this is the method to use. I didn't get super close to 4, I used 1,750 pots to get my power the highest.
That's good to know and let's hope it isn;t luck xp
So now we've figured out superior, regular and mighty. Next is legendary and accomplished :x
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No one knows, if someone sent a 1:1 to a GM to ask for ingame examples then we might now >_<
However, I doubt the GM's will have time on their hands to show all of the sprites. T_T
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I don't think there is a different color, we would have found them in the nri files if there was? D: We knew the superior colors before anyone had one...so idk. Maybe it's just the title.
 
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Which server is that? @_@
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So maybe rydia is right on the no sprite color change on accomplished guardians.
Yep, I saw it larger and it's the Red Ifron. So Accomplished guardians are the same color as Superior.
 
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Yep, I saw it larger and it's the Red Ifron. So Accomplished guardians are the same color as Superior.
Aww man... that's disappointing. Though it's a nice confirmation that there is actually an accomplished title.

Great x_x another build to figure out.
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Yep, I saw it larger and it's the Red Ifron. So Accomplished guardians are the same color as Superior.
Oh yay now it's confirmed. We just need to hunt down the build
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Which Guardian interests you the most? - Trickster Online Revolution This thread Refback 01-27-2013 01:36 AM
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Guardian for Witch - please help me - Trickster Online Revolution This thread Refback 01-07-2011 06:52 PM
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Which Guardian interests you the most? - Trickster Online Revolution This thread Refback 08-30-2010 02:17 PM
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Which Guardian interests you the most? - Trickster Online Revolution This thread Refback 07-17-2010 02:13 AM
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Which Guardian interests you the most? - Trickster Online Revolution This thread Refback 12-25-2009 07:06 PM
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Untitled document This thread Refback 11-09-2009 02:22 AM
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