Guardians

[Lucratcia]

so, just to recap about guardians, Harkons are a definite, what about Harkon shards? Its hard to keep up now T_T

[weissritter]

Originally Posted by Lucratcia

so, just to recap about guardians, Harkons are a definite, what about Harkon shards? Its hard to keep up now T_T

you need those as well.

[kale15]

Originally Posted by Lucratcia

so, just to recap about guardians, Harkons are a definite, what about Harkon shards? Its hard to keep up now T_T

here's a recap on what you can collect right now for the guardian quests:

lvl 65 - card skill: 1 of each of the arcana cards, 5 harkon shards.
lvl 135 - soul seed: episode 3 chapter 1 completed(I know it's not an item but you need access to the trickster shrine.)
lvl 135 - awakening the guardian: 1 harkon, 1 honey tea.
lvl 180 - shadow sight: 1 popeyed anemone card.

Edit~ and cards lots and lots of cards

[Lucratcia]

Kale+Weiss: Thanks for clearing it up, i can get everything but the Harkon easily...guess i'll be doing the Marx quest at Tap mine...

[Esper]

Originally Posted by kale15

here's a recap on what you can collect right now for the guardian quests:

lvl 65 - card skill: 1 of each of the arcana cards, 5 harkon shards.
lvl 135 - soul seed: episode 3 chapter 1 completed(I know it's not an item but you need access to the trickster shrine.)
lvl 135 - awakening the guardian: 1 harkon, 1 honey tea.
lvl 180 - shadow sight: 1 popeyed anemone card.

Edit~ and cards lots and lots of cards

Time to do some harkon shards digging and hunting popeyed. /runs off.

What item do we need from the Trickster Shrine?

[kale15]

Originally Posted by Mirae

Time to do some harkon shards digging and hunting popeyed. /runs off.

What item do we need from the Trickster Shrine?

none, you need to be able to speak to the light filled egg NPC to port the blue fairy nefertiti (or w/e her name is on eTO). You might actually have to be further along in episode 3, but I couldn't say for sure as I had already finished episode 3.

Anyways minium you need to be able to reach the light filled egg.

[Esper]

Oh boo. /sits in front of the egg and glares.

[ShionSinX]

at this image u can see that the guardian got +1 power, +1 magic, +1 sense and +TWO charm...

[FoxFX]

well to those who got their Guardians in the other version of Trickster, what's your opinion on these summoned Guardians in PVP/GVG/PVM? How effective are they to you?

(and please...for the luv of god....give me some reps for asking this question [despite my brewing-trolling-on-Gladiator-powers-of-doom XD])

[seth666c]

Would one be able to get 6s and 7s on a guardian?
And around how many times would one need to repeat an action to increase a certain stats? and will the increasing of stats be harder for the higher the lvl of the stat is?

[weissritter]

Originally Posted by seth666c

Would one be able to get 6s and 7s on a guardian?
And around how many times would one need to repeat an action to increase a certain stats? and will the increasing of stats be harder for the higher the lvl of the stat is?

part 1 yes

part2, once is enough

part 3 no

@fox, how effective do you think for guardians if you die in 1 hit in pvp <_< and for them to be summoned, you has to be alive.

[seth666c]

Originally Posted by weissritter

part2, once is enough

So , umm , if i were to kill 6 monsters i would have 6 power and so on?
And i'm not sure , but i think one wouldn't be able to get 0 in one stat (after guardian hatches) even if they wanted to...
If one has an account with 2 characters with guardians , can one trade the guardians among them ? If so , does one just need the skill to "wake" the guardian to use it or wouldn't that be possible?

@Weiss+Kale: can you teach your guardians Cure? (was just curious since it isn't actually a attacking or debuff skill)

[Mikeall]

Originally Posted by kale15

it's not recommended to have a zero in any of the stats, unless you want absolutely no skill slots for that type of skill. The stat number determines it's skill slots E.G. if it has a 5 in power it will have 5 power skill slots.

So does that mean my charm guardian can learn magic skills? Is it like we buy the skill cards and insert it to their skill slots?

[ShionSinX]

do u think we ll get the guardians at next update or we ll need to w8 more?

i know u cant tell it for SURE, but how bout ur opinion?

[AlohaPride]

this is bad... glads are gonna be soo hax now...


well if they get 2nd job skills

[kale15]

Originally Posted by seth666c

So , umm , if i were to kill 6 monsters i would have 6 power and so on?
And i'm not sure , but i think one wouldn't be able to get 0 in one stat (after guardian hatches) even if they wanted to...
If one has an account with 2 characters with guardians , can one trade the guardians among them ? If so , does one just need the skill to "wake" the guardian to use it or wouldn't that be possible?

@Weiss+Kale: can you teach your guardians Cure? (was just curious since it isn't actually a attacking or debuff skill)

they could get a 0, but they'd have to avoid all pots. It's really easy to get the stats to 2, but it gets "harder" to raise them beyond that. Most likely everything will have a 2 unless you actively try and avoid that.

the guardians themselves are a skill, not an item, plus I couldn't even bank my soul seed before I hatched it.

I couldn't get it to learn cure, but then I don't really care about cure. Currently my guardian knows:
power - shockvibe, luck breaker, sense breaker, armor breaker, none
magic - mana arrow, arrow rush, rust, none(I'm still deciding between ring and storm)
sense - sticky foot, armor destructor, stone strike (theres not alot of sense skill guardians can learn as all passive, buff, and item skills are off the table so all that's left is sticky foot, armor destructor, and stone strike)
charm - skunk pouch, magic meltdown, magic defense breaker, power blow, titanium wrist (final blow kinda really sucks on a guardian so I removed it).

[Xaorath]

Originally Posted by kale15

they could get a 0, but they'd have to avoid all pots. It's really easy to get the stats to 2, but it gets "harder" to raise them beyond that. Most likely everything will have a 2 unless you actively try and avoid that.

the guardians themselves are a skill, not an item, plus I couldn't even bank my soul seed before I hatched it.

I couldn't get it to learn cure, but then I don't really care about cure. Currently my guardian knows:
power - shockvibe, luck breaker, sense breaker, armor breaker, none
magic - mana arrow, arrow rush, rust, none(I'm still deciding between ring and storm)
sense - sticky foot, armor destructor, stone strike (theres not alot of sense skill guardians can learn as all passive, buff, and item skills are off the table so all that's left is sticky foot, armor destructor, and stone strike)
charm - skunk pouch, magic meltdown, magic defense breaker, power blow, titanium wrist (final blow kinda really sucks on a guardian so I removed it).

When your guardian learns skills, how does it work when you want to use a skill? Are you able to bind the Guardian's skills to your hotkeys and use them like regular skills, do you command the guardians to use skills for you or do your guardians use the skills and buffs and not you?

Also, when your guardian learns / levels up a skill, does it use up your TM points?

How do you make your guardian learn skills? Do you use cards or is there some other way?

I'd assume you'd know the answers to these two questions since you state that your Guardian has those skills already. If you answered these questions in the past, I apologize, but I didn't see them.

Btw, ew @ Buff skills being knocked off the list. No lucky 7 for my priest.

[kale15]

it will just randomly use them on the target you are attacking.

it has it's own TM points, but they work differently as mine only has 10 points and more skills then ten points will allow.

if you have the skill drag and drop it on the guardian's skill area, if you don't have it go buy the skill card and drag and drop it on the guardian's skill area.

[coolbluex]

oh wow i wouldn't mind having Heavy Carrier and Lucky Seven on my power and charm characters

[kale15]

Originally Posted by coolbluex

oh wow i wouldn't mind having Heavy Carrier and Lucky Seven on my power and charm characters

*headdesks*

I just said

YOUR GUARDIAN CAN'T LEARN BUFFS, PASSIVES, OR SKILLS THAT REQUIRE ITEMS!

Start looking at the guardian more as an attack SKILL then a pet.