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Well, when i use the guardian, my status will be fused with guardian's status?
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This is so confusing, I'm not expecting a specific person to answer this, but uhh.. if you train it before it hatches, it gets a higher stat? So the longer its in the seed the stronger it is?

If that's true, can it be train after it hatches?
no. u train just before, isnt possible to train after.

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Well, when i use the guardian, my status will be fused with guardian's status?
no,they have their own stats.
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so, basicaly u have the stats of their grown (when its in egg form) plus some points to put (like a normal chara).

BUT the last images show 4 free pts, and this last posted one have 5... (1 power, 1 magic, 1 sense, 2 charm)


and heres my question:

each stat growth is separetede right? if i just keep attacking, using skills, drillng compounding, poting... evertything ll be increased right?

but theres a way to know which guardian i ll get then?

or ll i have to control it by doing somehing for a day or 2...? (like after put a driller pet, do the thing the kale said bout the MP acessory to mp pots, hp poting, attack for a few hours...)
 
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Good thing some people just use one of two easily obtained Harkons for job advance and the other is free for choice , which in this case will be the guardian ^^
 
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Well, my guardian will be a new character but into my body character?
What will gain with it o_o?
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how to grow your seed:

to build the power stat - attack monsters, use HP pots, use non-magical skills.
to build the magic stat - use magical skills, use MP pots.
to build the sense stat - drill, synthesize with paul or nadia, compound with nate, BLOCK monster attacks.
to build the charm stat - DODGE monster attacks, pick up gelder, look at people profiles, use the stores, use HP pots(power is increased more by this).
Those are the factors that determine which guardian you will obtain once it hatches from the seed.

Once it hatches, it should be able to learn first job skills depending on the type of the guardian. They are pretty much a secondary helper that actually does something for you.
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If i get power guardian (cat plox D, Can ill use UpperCut and pupping heart?
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So far we've only said first job skills allowed [?]. Uppercut is a second job skill.
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Lol, sorry, i forgot...
Okay, i need fix my mind to train for got 300 in my guardian lol.
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if it can only get 1st job skills...

for me its more than enough ^^

i want a magic one for my gladiator, for cure (im lucky to have a 2k MP dragon ring 190, this ll make my work a lot easier).

but for my dark lord... idk ._.

maybe a charm one for shield all and tank... or maybe a power to attack psycally magic resist monster/bosses...

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Those are the factors that determine which guardian you will obtain once it hatches from the seed.
so... how can i know if i ll get a power one after pass a day attacking, 1 day MP poting, a day driller peting...?

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Regarding Guardian.

I'll repeat what I have said...

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From my source, it said that when guardian at lvl 1 lasts 50 seconds. The higher the level, the longer it will activate.

They also mentioned potting for HP, or MP will raise 1-2 point in the gauge below the egg's stat chart. When 5 points in the gauge are filled, you get one point in the egg's stat chart. You can only have a total of 14 points and 6 being the max on each stat. Once total points hit 14, all growth stops completely no matter what you do. But some players can get up alot higher by doing certain actions repeatedly before the guardian hatches... which leads to an rare guardian with higher stats than the original 14 points describe in the egg's stat chart.

Whichever stats are the highest will determine the type of guardian you will get. If you have 6 points in Pow, then your pretty much getting the pow guardian.

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We will need Harkon to get the seeds or guardians? (Sorry If i missed out, just wanted to make sure.)
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so.... if i'm a power type... it's recommended to get 0 on power on my guardian?
 
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so.... if i'm a power type... it's recommended to get 0 on power on my guardian?
it's not recommended to have a zero in any of the stats, unless you want absolutely no skill slots for that type of skill. The stat number determines it's skill slots E.G. if it has a 5 in power it will have 5 power skill slots.

and for the record all you have to do for the shadow sight skill is bring eclipse in mega skill shrine the key from the eclipse honey tea quest in the guardian awakening, and a popeyed anemone card.
 
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well uhm... why would i need power skills if i'm already a power type? orz
 
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it's not recommended to have a zero in any of the stats, unless you want absolutely no skill slots for that type of skill. The stat number determines it's skill slots E.G. if it has a 5 in power it will have 5 power skill slots.
A few questions for ya...

1. Does this mean that regardless of the type of Guardian you get, you will be able to mix and match first job skills from all of the different classes (Power, Magic, Sense, charm)?

For example, if you have 6 power 2 magic 1 sense 3 charm (these are just made up) does that mean you can get 6 power skills, 2 magic skills, 1 sense skill and 3 charm skills on your guardian?

2. Does each skill level up in the same way as regular skills? Do they have the same max level and stats? Also, does each skill use 1 slot regardless of the level of the skill? For example, one first job power stat would use 1 slot, even if it's master level? Lastly, do these skills use up your characters TM?

3. Are you able to master these skills and if you can, do they require the same cards / items to master as they normally would?

4. Guardians can only learn first job skills, right?

5. Do the skills that the Guardians learn only apply to the guardian? Like, if you were to have a Guardian with buffs such as Lucky Seven, would your character get the buff or just the Guardian or both?

Also, are active skills such as Shockwave that are learned by the Guardian used by the Guardian, or by your character?

6. Are there any restrictions on which first job skills that can be learned or can you learn any of them? For example, could a non-sense type character learn Gun Carrier? If so only one thing to say:



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You need one. So grab them...

Actually all the cheap harkons on mega is gone by now...
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I can't answer all the questions as I still don't know here's what I do know.

My guardian has a 5436 build (I don't know how before I awoke it, it was 4325, and after it magically grew a point everywhere). It has 5 power skill slots, 4 magic skill slots, 3 sense skill slots, and 6 charm skill slots. I have only been able to teach it 1st job charm attack and debuff skills. I tried teaching it card strike and impelling rage but neither took, I also tried shield all and dodge master but neither of those took. I was able to teach it titanium wrist but not physical training. My fox friend said hers wouldn't learn gun skills. and when I put my mastered skills on my guardian they show up lvl 10, and to remove them all I have to do is right click them.

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so, just to recap about guardians, Harkons are a definite, what about Harkon shards? Its hard to keep up now T_T
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