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yeah so iragana basically confessed to scamming me today. the screenie posted is out of context cos there was quite a bit of swearing, but trust me when i say we were not having a platonic discussion about the pros and cons of scamming.
 
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yeah so iragana basically confessed to scamming me today. the screenie posted is out of context cos there was quite a bit of swearing, but trust me when i say we were not having a platonic discussion about the pros and cons of scamming.
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agreed. i did get some closure from it though
 
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Hm...

AvengerOfHell/Royalejoker/Hydrolics.

Everyone know it. But, I can't see his name at the list
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Because the list no longer exists (aka updated). No proof of screenshots doesn't help either. :x
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Hm...

AvengerOfHell/Royalejoker/Hydrolics.

Everyone know it. But, I can't see his name at the list
googled it, fireblub is his as well
and is he forgiven now or something? i know he did some genuine trades since he got back but...
and hydrolics is in spartan :x
if hes forgiven ok... if not just to give some people a heads-up.

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I'm going to put this out as a cautionary notice as more evidence needs to come forward but I think it's worth putting out there for people to be aware of.

Basically I was checking the BB and I saw several people saying H0lysheep was a scammer, with her saying GuiLacerda was a scammer in turn.
Holy is in my guild so I obviously wanted to investigate further.

Basically the situation went like this. Holy was selling MS, Guilacerda wanted to buy a beagle headgear, apparently they paid first and Holy didn't gift. Then a friend of Guilacerda's got involved but from what I can gather has no further evidence other than what she said.

I spoke to holy in guild chat and after some time, Holy stated to me that she had in fact gifted the headgear and that it was in fact Guilacerda who scammed her. Guilacerda has no screenshot evidence.

After Holy stated this to me, I told her an easy way to prove it would be to go into myshop, click the gift tab and take a screen shot of the gift she sent as it is listed there.

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As you can see she disconnected after saying she was going to upload it.

Now this all happened about an hour ago.

Current conclusion: Holy was acting odd through out the whole thing, the disconnection was badly timed. Obviously it's possible something else happened and she is in fact innocent. Guilacerda did not exactly seem reputable from the conversation I had with her either.
As it stands I am going to leave this until further notice, Holy has until the end of the night to return otherwise she will be removed from the guild with a notice to all my guild members to look out for her and have her contact me with the evidence she said she could provide asap.
Gut instinct is she wont return.

The reason I am posting here is that I would put caution on trading with either of these parties at present as one of them is definitely lying. I will continue to pursue it and see if I can find stronger evidence in either direction to which I'll update you all.
 
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googled it, fireblub is his as well
and is he forgiven now or something? i know he did some genuine trades since he got back but...
and hydrolics is in spartan :x
if hes forgiven ok... if not just to give some people a heads-up.

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Forgiven or not, he still scams. He scammed a friend of mine recently on AvengerOfHell.
 
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I'm going to put this out as a cautionary notice as more evidence needs to come forward but I think it's worth putting out there for people to be aware of.
I heard Gui was a scammer, but I guess we can't jump into conclusions.
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I'm going to leave her in guild for now. Give it a few more days as it will be easier to contact her over it etc. She's been on every day for the last few weeks so if she doesn't show up by the end of the week, I'd doubt she'd be back at all and I'll remove her then and post an update here.

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Update on what was said, Holy hasn't returned since disconnecting. She's been removed and I'll leave it up to everyone else to make their own decisions about them. Thanks.

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I posted a bb that fireblub=scammer
later he contacted me using RoyaleJoker saying how fireblub is trutworthy xD
thought i took the ss but didnt

then someone pmed me again saying how fireblub is a good friend and trustworthy, prob still him trying to get me to take the bb off

he also scammed someone for plvling his dragon from 44-48



hes done some real trades too, according to BabySun, but still scams :x
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I'm guessing he's one of those scammers who is honest with some people, but scams others? I remember my plvlers did his plvl session right after mine and I'm guessing the outcome was okay.
 
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had an interesting convo with him, mainly wanted to see who was in party with him, and they might see some sense otherwise wouldnt have bothered. it just bothers me that hes doing some real trades to seem trustworthy, while scamming others :x

think he can get banned for the bit about it being his brothers account?

oh ye, Stefanya is some lv32x sheep, not him, was in party with him
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The whole "My brother/friend/someone else scammed, It wasn't me," excuse. I would just ignore his friends/people who message you to stop, and just keep it up. At least have some sort of warning to keep others from getting scammed, too.

I wouldn't try to convince his friends otherwise, though. If he's done fair trades with him, they most likely wouldn't believe that he's a scammer.
 
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just thought i should try, if a friend of mine turned out to be a scammer i wouldnt want to have anything to do with him/her
 
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That **** scammed a friend of mines with that AvengerOfHell character. He said that fireblub was his bro's....what a lie? So they're both scammers? The more the better.
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had an interesting convo with him, mainly wanted to see who was in party with him, and they might see some sense otherwise wouldnt have bothered. it just bothers me that hes doing some real trades to seem trustworthy, while scamming others :x
KaitoWajima (trusted seller) was the one who he scammed. You can ask him yourself. "Recently" also equals about a month ago, and it was 12,000 MyShop (now Rage Points) that he scammed.

I've already asked him if he took screenshots, but he said no. Since there are no screenshots; no one needs to believe it, but it can still serve as a warning, regardless.


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think he can get banned for the bit about it being his brothers account?
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thing is, trying to get him banned is pointless
i wouldnt be surprised if it really is his bro's account, but if he's banned, his bro can just email to get it unbanned.

at this point, as long as someone puts forward a logical argument, i'd believe anything negative about him
anyone's words > his
 
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random ish but i just saw fasterhit/ possible OxigenDestroyer
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saw a convo of his, think anyone can translate?
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