Scammer Discussion Thread

[MOEMiyuki]

Originally Posted by lnwmakmak

MyShop points are not supposed to be traded with in-game Galders at the first place.

I dont see why they have to care about this.

So I dont think you should blame GMs.

Ok i understand but if it go like this TO gonna be THE SCAMMER PARADISE
(well it's actually the scammer paradise)

And why not scam each other? Cuz u can't get bann for it.

Well that don't mean i gonna scam but why work so hard to make money like 3-4 days or sometimes a month to collect sell stuff to get money to buy MS or unik or pwrfull, a scammer make more money than u or me in like 10 min. That don't pissed u off, think about it.

[Cenomx]

Originally Posted by MOEMiyuki

Ok i understand but if it go like this TO gonna be THE SCAMMER PARADISE
(well it's actually the scammer paradise)

And why not scam each other? Cuz u can't get bann for it.

Well that don't mean i gonna scam but why work so hard to make money like 3-4 days or sometimes a month to collect sell stuff to get money to buy MS or unik or pwrfull, a scammer make more money than u or me in like 10 min. That don't pissed u off, think about it.

Its hard to agree, but there's no point of banning these people. Would be good, but there isn't. There's not a real reason, for banning, lie isn't good but isn't either a reason for ban.

What you said is the pure truth, scamming is one of the fastest way for getting big profits and the better, with "none" consequence.

For me, each scammer I know or have heard anytime, is a KOS @ PvP.

Other point is, scamming is like the thing that happens in mostly Societies: If you have the biggest part of an Enterprise, all people around you there, are waiting for a oportunity of truth by you, so you give them something, and then, they rip you off, it happens in real life , they don't go to the Jail... Because they didn't went off the laws, you just trusted them and got scammed.

Its completly your falt.
So you can't blame anyone.

Example:

I have an enterprize, and I can't hold it in my "name" because I'm in a divorce (Wierd Example) ~ And I don't want my Wife ripping of everything I have.

So, I pass to your name, and you scam me.
Rip Off everything I worked so hard to make.

What I say:

There's nothing to do... LOL ~ It was my falt, even If I knew you, and we accorded something, there's nothing I can do, Nothing the Police can Do, When you give something to someone in the "legal statement", it means you gave, they don't ask why you did it, or if it had something trated.

Go scam, if you think its a good way.
Probably gonna get KOsed baddly on PvP, and wont get friend as easy as it is at moment.

[MOEMiyuki]

Originally Posted by Cenomx

Its hard to agree, but there's no point of banning these people. Would be good, but there isn't. There's not a real reason, for banning, lie isn't good but isn't either a reason for ban.

What you said is the pure truth, scamming is one of the fastest way for getting big profits and the better, with "none" consequence.

For me, each scammer I know or have heard anytime, is a KOS @ PvP.

Other point is, scamming is like the thing that happens in mostly Societies: If you have the biggest part of an Enterprise, all people around you there, are waiting for a oportunity of truth by you, so you give them something, and then, they rip you off, it happens in real life , they don't go to the Jail... Because they didn't went off the laws, you just trusted them and got scammed.

Its completly your falt.
So you can't blame anyone.

Example:

I have an enterprize, and I can't hold it in my "name" because I'm in a divorce (Wierd Example) ~ And I don't want my Wife ripping of everything I have.

So, I pass to your name, and you scam me.
Rip Off everything I worked so hard to make.

What I say:

There's nothing to do... LOL ~ It was my falt, even If I knew you, and we accorded something, there's nothing I can do, Nothing the Police can Do, When you give something to someone in the "legal statement", it means you gave, they don't ask why you did it, or if it had something trated.

Go scam, if you think its a good way.
Probably gonna get KOsed baddly on PvP, and wont get friend as easy as it is at moment.

D: well sry guys i was angry when i write this but u completely right, it was cuz of my stupidity i get scammed.

[lnwmakmak]

Sorry to say this, BUT this world is a scammer paradise.

They do when they have a chance. And chances are occurred no matter how good the rules or laws are.

This happened because you were greedy (want MS so bad in the cheap price) and the seller were too (wanted the Galders so bad that they had to scam).

I am greedy too. That's why I sold stuff (like MS) in such a high price because I just simply WANT MORE too.

We are taught to GET MORE.

Blame materialism for that.

[Recette]

Originally Posted by lnwmakmak

Sorry to say this, BUT this world is a scammer paradise.

They do when they have a chance. And chances are occurred no matter how good the rules or laws are.

This happened because you were greedy (want MS so bad in the cheap price) and the seller were too (wanted the Galders so bad that they had to scam).

I am greedy too. That's why I sold stuff (like MS) in such a high price because I just simply WANT MORE too.

We are taught to GET MORE.

Blame materialism for that.

Sorry, but I do disagree. This is a matter of principle (ethical values) and not just simple greed. Yes materialism is part of society. But if people are honest they will complete their end of the deal. If they believe that stealing others is fine, then they will not. Do you see the difference? The way your statement is written puts all the blame in the victim, and endorses this kind of thing to continue to happen.

Unfortunately scams and such cannot be prevented in TO the way the game is, but the above still stands as most people dispise people who engage in fradulent practices ingame. And you probably know that actively engaging in scamming and frauds with people in real life to satisfy your greed will probably get you in a lot of trouble if you are found out.

[Kirks]

All I can say is:


Life is a gamble.

[lnwmakmak]

Nahhh high risk(scam) breeds high returns($$+++).

Many times ethics doesnt matter for scammer when they get what they want even though it's a "wrong" shortcut.

You hate them? Yeah you can KOS them. But in the end they got rich... and not get banned

[Recette]

Originally Posted by lnwmakmak

Nahhh high risk(scam) breeds high returns($$+++).

Many times ethics doesnt matter for scammer when they get what they want even though it's a "wrong" shortcut.

You hate them? Yeah you can KOS them. But in the end they got rich... and not get banned

What I have said above still stands as a scam is wrong as it involves deceiving someone, even though most of them do not get anyway.

Most scammers do not get very rich anyways as people stop trading with them as their reputation grows.

And sorry to know that you support this practice in game and in the world outhere. (EDIT: sorry, I do not mean that. Just the way the paragraphs above are written may lead someone to think that, even if you think otherwise. I agree that unfortunately people with bad intentions will always exist, my point in a nutshell is that that is wrong.)

I will stop here as this is getting out of track of the main purpose of the thread.

[lnwmakmak]

I dont think what you were saying is off topic. It's helpful.

I personally dont support scammers. I (and you) just cant help it.

But what I said was the mindset of scammers.

To sum up, we will only see more and more screenshots of scammers and who got scammed as long as we all cant get rid of "greed".

Good guys or bad guys have those in the deepest of our mind.

[Bloodybun]

MegaManZeroX
PinkChocobo

Trying to scam me, then because I didn't accept PF/half first/collateral to his outdated char of 2008.


I'm a scammer

[posu]

If I force someone to take my money, what is that called? Reverse-scamming? It is like the opposite of scamming. Scamming is where you take someone's money or items fraudulently. In my case, I sort of tricked** the person into take my money against his or her own will. >_>;;

[Kirks]

What a fail~+_+

[posu]

Am I going to be added to the list? T_T

[MintyVampire]

Please do add yourself to the list, Usop ;_;

Though I think many people will be glad to get "scam" by you.

[Cenomx]

Originally Posted by Bloodybun

MegaManZeroX
PinkChocobo

Trying to scam me, then because I didn't accept PF/half first/collateral to his outdated char of 2008.


I'm a scammer

I bought from MegaManZeroX over 70k few days ago...
I think he is just new in this game, and thought you have tried to scam him, lol ~

But for me he did GF >:

[Settie]

ohay. I think I'm too nice to scammers ;-;

after asking for my tenter set I ignored, lols.

I think it's funny cause I don't even know LSCY, obvious scammer is too obvious.

[KieranCarden]

Originally Posted by Settie

ohay. I think I'm too nice to scammers ;-;

after asking for my tenter set I ignored, lols.

I think it's funny cause I don't even know LSCY, obvious scammer is too obvious.

If I didn't know better, I'd say you were on Fantasia. There's someone who runs around here doing the exact same thing - claiming they're someone you should know, then giving a list of high level characters nearly identical to what you encountered and wanting to go on each others accounts. Then when you say no, ask if they can borrow/trade uniques.

To coincidental to be different people?

[posu]

Originally Posted by Settie

ohay. I think I'm too nice to scammers ;-;

after asking for my tenter set I ignored, lols.

I think it's funny cause I don't even know LSCY, obvious scammer is too obvious.

Don't waste your time having an entire conversation with them, silly. You should have blocked and ignored sooner. :p

I can't see the second image but I assume that it is a continuation of the first image.

[Rom]

"i share with onoo" - that made my day. I shall now go rofl in real life now.

[Vixen]

Originally Posted by KieranCarden

If I didn't know better, I'd say you were on Fantasia. There's someone who runs around here doing the exact same thing - claiming they're someone you should know, then giving a list of high level characters nearly identical to what you encountered and wanting to go on each others accounts. Then when you say no, ask if they can borrow/trade uniques.

To coincidental to be different people?

At the top it says Ruby Island o3o

There are hundreds of people that pretend to be others in Jewelia too, heck even someone whispered my BF called Vickszy when I was with him.. lol