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@BloodyBun - A GLS AND a GS got scammed. Who cares if it was 22mil? A scam is a scam. Just because it's not the haxest thing on the market doesn't mean it should be sniffed at.
I'm just saying that even if it's him or not, he's still related to this problem. He could of just give another to valese to compensate the one she got stolen. After all it's his friend or brother or whoever cuz I didn't read the whole thing. True, it may be a scam but I think you guys are enough mature to solve this thing instead of acting like a child and trying to figure out who's right or who's wrong. Like there must be someone to blame but in this case, both side has to be blame so no one is win. To be nice I would just give another gls and gs. zZZzZzZzz
 
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I'm just saying that even if it's him or not, he's still related to this problem. He could of just give another to valese to compensate the one she got stolen. After all it's his friend or brother or whoever cuz I didn't read the whole thing. True, it may be a scam but I think you guys are enough mature to solve this thing instead of acting like a child and trying to figure out who's right or who's wrong. Like there must be someone to blame but in this case, both side has to be blame so no one is win. To be nice I would just give another gls and gs. zZZzZzZzz
Tell them, not us. Tell them to give a GLS/GS matching her stats. They're acting childish because all they're saying is that we edited the conversations, but there is not one bit of evidence suggesting we edited them. And they're throwing insults at us - I'm replying to this as well-mannered as I can, I can go all out but that wouldn't solve anything - I'm here to prove that Valese is not a liar.
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I gave Muffinsx3 ({Terror}) the GLS + GS twice. The first time, I gave it to him and he gave it back, as I said he could borrow it later. Here is the conversation on MSN. Please note the time and the date.

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On Trickster he gave it back to me (remember, this is the first time, I gave the set back to him on the 27th), here's proof:

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Remember, look at the time and date of the screenshot -and- the MSN conversation. Notice the time of the trade, and the time he said thank you.

I'd love to also point out that. Muffinsx3 is the 2nd job Raccoon with the Inferno Hat on his head. It also shows it's him because of the little scales on his head, indicating we're in a trade.
 
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Sorry Val, but all I see is Muffin giving the set back lol.
Another thought tho =x why would you even take a screenie at that moment lol.
If this was before you lent him the set again =x
It seems like you were planning something to get back who ever is on Muffin...
I'm confused.
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sammie that was the 1st time she gave the set just showing that she was giving it to muffinsx3 not the other character w/e its called im not paying attention
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Sorry Val, but all I see is Muffin giving the set back lol.
Another thought tho =x why would you even take a screenie at that moment lol.
If this was before you lent him the set again =x
It seems like you were planning something to get back who ever is on Muffin...
I'm confused.
My point was to prove Muffinsx3 is Terry.

I -always- take screenies of every trade. The fact I can't find the screenshots of the trade where I gave the equips back to him might be cause I reformatted my PC a week ago, so some screenshots might have gotten deleted cause of it.
 
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''Cause after all, as much as I hate them, you love them.'' Really now? Thanks, this makes it so much easier proving you only do this out of hate, as you know Muffinsx3 is not I repeat NOT {Terror}
Post #1208 contradicts with Post #1246. The proof is valid with the timestamps.

Please explain yourself (opposition).

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And sometimes we don't say a thing; just listen to the crickets sing.

If there is anything you guys are confused about, we'll get back to it soon.
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Like said before, they made their own msn and they faked the whole thing. This clearly is a set up, why else would she screenshot it when she got her set back, and then suddenly she had to reformat her pc. So she "lost" the screenshots wheres she gave muffin the set back.

You people must know that both Valese and Vixen have a history with Terror jeff
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Alright, I finally got access to a PC.

If any type of instigating, name calling or any off topic discussion that is NOT about the following people listed: Valese, {Terror}(Terry), Jeffyx3(Jeff), x3Muffinz(Jeff), Muffinsx3 will be deleted and the appropriate actions will be taken if it continues. This includes discussion of the guilds these players are involved in. Remember, this is a SCAMMER DISCUSSION thread.

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My point was to prove Muffinsx3 is Terry.

I -always- take screenies of every trade. The fact I can't find the screenshots of the trade where I gave the equips back to him might be cause I reformatted my PC a week ago, so some screenshots might have gotten deleted cause of it.
i'll let you in on a lil secret. {Terror} leveled Muffinsx3 to 80 so he could booster wit us, (he would give him myshop) they did not share he simply logged in at his place. whatever you do wit this information is irrelevant. I'm just here to clarify things. Not that it matters, but whatever happened after this trade is not on us. As you took an SS of {Terror} (Currently on Muffinsx3) gave you your equips back. Thus, making {Terror} not a scammer. I'd love for you to find another SS of you giving the set to Muffinsx3 again with an actual MSN convo where your talking to {Terror}. And the whole ''reformatted my comp crap'' I'm not buying it, I hardly believe anyone would.

Good day to you.

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Why the hell would we make this stuff up? Stop sticking together in a group and saying we edited it, when there is COLD HARD PROOF.

I'll let Shanni/Mirae decide whether what we have is enough proof.

Oh, you said Muffinsx3 was nothing to do with {Terror}, now the truth is out, you're saying he logged on his character? I kinda knew this would happen, but there you go..

Aha. Mr Contradicts again. YOU stated in an earlier post that you guys DO NOT ACCOUNT SHARE - CLAIMING YOU'D GET ''BANNED ON THE SPOT'' - YET YOU SAID TERROR WAS ON MUFFINSX3 TO HELP HIM LEVEL. Need I say more?

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i'll let you in on a lil secret. {Terror} leveled Muffinsx3 to 80 so he could booster wit us, (he would give him myshop) they did not share he simply logged in at his place.
Oke. But what did you just say earlier? Let's all have a flasback shall we?

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And bout the sharing part, yeh, not buying it, since if we share we'll get perma'd on sight, so gg.
Yea. Thought so. You can never win after lying -this- much. Everything you say we can use something YOU stated earlier to hold against you.


@Shanni, I'm just quoting that they admitted to account sharing for future reference - leading on from Vixen's post.
 
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But Ameh, the quote says {Terror} LEVELED Muffinsx3 to 80, meaning he didn't only log on for the set :x
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Bolded for everyone's attention.

Logging in a friend's account once or twice at his place doesn't necessarily mean they share habitually. I mean, it probably depends on how you define "sharing" but it sounds more like a one-off rather than constant sharing. A lot of GoW people know each other in real life and live very close by. They go to each other's house a lot. Those of you friends with Youp and Jeff should know. I don't think anyone would be so stupid to admit they share, after all of these people have just had their perma ban lifted.

Edit: Trying to stay on topic here. Just pointing out that Terror and Muffinsx3 don't have to be the same person to have played the same account.
I really wonder where this MYSTERY PERSON suddenly came from :O Logging in at people's houses, secretly stalking me, going on TERROR'S MSN to talk to me and get my GLS and GS from me.

If this person is in fact SOMEONE ELSE. Tell me WHY would this person have something against me asking me for my GLS and GS when they DON'T EVEN KNOW ME, and then SCAM me?

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Yes Youp. Great point. They all would play TO just to scam someone they don't know on a game, right? Cause like, it's soo 'badass' and ..stuff.. right... Tom?

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Man you underastimate how many people we know irl that play TO. e.e;;

Also the scam wasn't a personal thing. The dude just needed the cash and the gear.
So he sold it when he was done. XD
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But Ameh, the quote says {Terror} LEVELED Muffinsx3 to 80, meaning he didn't only log on for the set :x
If thats the problem there are plenty other ways to ''level'' some1 else. Give them money to buy quest items, PowerLvl , afk a party so the person can grind, sit on a PQ or offer some support to kill the mobs. o_o

Really, you girls are trying to pick so many stupid and meanless details.

I wonder what you ppl take as ''sharing'' ... A person who logs on a friend's acc to do some quests or help to transfer anything. A group of ppl who grind a char all the way to 400 non stoping. A dude who gets on his GF's acc just to leave a present there...

This is offtopic I know but I'd like to make sure of what actually is account sharing for you ppl and whats the point of mentioning this here. ''account sharing for future reference'' ...that made me Lol.
 
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Man you underastimate how many people we know irl that play TO. e.e;;

Also the scam wasn't a personal thing. The dude just needed the cash and the gear.
So he sold it when he was done.
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YES TY :3! That's all we wanted to hear THE DUDE you're talking about IS {TERROR}. HE was the one vending MY equipments. TY Youp.


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If thats the problem there are plenty other ways to ''level'' some1 else. Give them money to buy quest items, PowerLvl , afk a party so the person can grind, sit on a PQ or offer some support to kill the mobs. o_o

Really, you girls are trying to pick so many stupid and meanless details.

I wonder what you ppl take as ''sharing'' ... A person who logs on a friend's acc to do some quests or help to transfer anything. A group of ppl who grind a char all the way to 400 non stoping. A dude who gets on his GF's acc just to leave a present there...

This is offtopic I know but I'd like to make sure of what actually is account sharing for you ppl and whats the point of mentioning this here. ''account sharing for future reference'' ...that made me Lol.
There you go again. He already admitted that he was on Muffinsx3's account, but you refuse to believe it.

Sharing is sharing - my BF doesn't know my account at all. I shared about 2-3 years back and I faced the consequences, therefore stopped trusting people with my account.

Darn Val, you beat me to that bit D:
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Not really. The dude I'm talking about is muffin who stayed over @ terrs o.o;;.
{Terror} is a whole different person lol. I thought muffinf sold the gears? XD Oh well must seen wrong person, then I made a mistake. Then your gears probably still on that muffin person ^^. I didn't really pay attention to the dude vending. Thought it was muffin vended your gears but terror vended other set lol. I found a crapload of stuff on my mule when they unbanned it and I don't really like vending XD Terr vended my stuff.

Am not too bright atm as it's 3 am ^^.
Please stop talking. You're making this easier with every word you type.

Oh btw. It's 3AM here, too, Youp.

Wow. Just wow. First Jeff. Then Ameh. Then Loa. Then Sammie, now Youp? Everyone's just contradicting eachother here. JEFF STATED EARLIER HE GAVE THE EQUIPMENTS HE TOOK FROM MUFFINS TO TERROR AND TERROR VENDED THEM. HOW ARE THOSE YOUR STUFF? :3

Sorry for the ~bolded~ text. Some people need extra big letters to actually read what's written. :3

And please. Shanni? Mirae? Any moderator out there that takes care of this thread. I'm sure it's obvious by now that these people keep contradicting eachother to find a path through their lies. Is there anyone studying psychology out there? It's so obvious what they're doing, yet this is -still- going on.

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