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11-17-2009   #601 (permalink)
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This thing it's so complicated, Ken just have proved his main account didn't do the scam. But he can use another account always to do that.

Anyways this is a typical "cyclical" scam where always there are so much coincidencies but no a definitive one.

Take yourselves a conclusion ._.
 
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Ken does it all the time it looks like from his recent posts, but most likely on purpose.


I see my name in one of them. 8D
 
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zzz...*beep*..morning

anyways...
check over your kos~o.O....
i still dont get how am it means that i know this person,
i only know that every single dam thing that i say
gets twisted. The plot had always been thick for me.
If i know that this would make myself more suspicious, why
would i type it at the 1st place.-.-....it is only a simple
sentace that i use to c if any1s in ur list had been recently
added or such.


why do i seem to seem to know so much?
simple.is all self-explanatory
im involved in it. totally
and just very simple cause & effect. logic
to benefit both of us.=.=


i only went to pvp for like twice this month, besides
it is a real good idea to pull one off when im on your kos
while having this much connections?

if you wanna dig holes off my sentences and things that i had
made, then go ahead, since when one person stands on one side
you wont be able see on the other side, i cant see whats so
supicious about things like that. i can see the similarites
and such. however, all this seems like marginal details
that cannont really substantiate your point

scamming you because of im on your kos are also a crapy reason,
like 2/3 of ppl kos in pvp, big deal

if you are accusing me of identical puntuation and such,
fine, but again with the 'how do i prove myself'

is fine that im being denounce, but gimme more real attestation,
is better getting it overwith faster.
without persuative proof, this is only a contrast between
our words, which is more belivable?or seems more belivable
being the defendant means that i can only defend. I cant deny
that im more spicious than plausible as it had been shown in
the previous record, but gimme some faith will ya, different
aspect's emphasis are enough to change the truth. talk about
bais._.

there are endless reasons that im a scammer, or im not a scammer
but if what i say is TRUE, then i would always be able to
clarify with facts and logic

Lastly, same thing again, if i were to know that i had this much
connection with this whole thing, and still decide to scam you,
then this is just absurb, dont know if you had talk to that dude
yet, maybe talking with us at the same time would help you fully
fully discern this whole thing? even though i dont know what he
would say, it would still helpz
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why do i seem to seem to know so much?
simple.is all self-explanatory
im involved in it. totally
and just very simple cause & effect. logic
to benefit both of us.=.=
Bolded part caught my eye lols. Why would you say you're "involved" if you aren't even the scammer? ._. Simply sharing an IP address and a few similarities, if that really is all there is to it, doesn't make you "involved" and nobody would use language like that to refer to themselves unless they're an "accomplice". So what's the cause and effect? >_>
 
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._. cuz my names on the scam list,,until my names clear, im still involved in it
cuz and effect like guessing.o.O
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It sounds more like you're saying "I know so much cause I'm part of the scam too (involved)" ...that's just what my mind is telling me. o_o How much do you know and if you do know "so much", why hasn't this whole thing been resolved yet? x.x
 
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>.> cuz there are not real evidence that im not a scammer, yet there are also no real evidence that prove that im a scammer. is my way of talkin like a smartass.xD...jk...
anyways...
what i know is what i have told,
maybe my pts screwed up a bit, but bascially is

me> dude> i know him, didn't talk to him much
^
scams
Shanni! > points out i got same ip etc.
^
i talked to that guy
^
he told me that he scammed her


conclusion:Shanni! gave me time to get back the money,
i cant, so she posted what she has
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That's it then, you'll be a scammer until you paid back Shanni! and Rem.

But I don't think that action will remove you completely from the scammer list ._. [IDK how Mirae manages that list].
 
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I'm trying to stay out of this since it's between Shanni! and Ken. I'm not going to stand [well sit] here and make it seem like I will be play favoritism.

Many of the members probably noticed by now, but I haven't posted a lot about this issue except about the IP. The other stuff were to make a case work properly.
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is not like i cant afford paying, but theres no reason for me 2 pay ~=/
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Quote:
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is not like i cant afford paying, but theres no reason for me 2 pay ~=/
Well, it's your nick on the list not our nick.

Hope this problem disappear soon :X
 
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In terms of paying back the scam victim, Ken is in a lose-lose situation anyway. If he does pay, it's basically a confirmation of guilt in my eyes. Why should he pay for somebody else's mistake if he wasn't the one who scammed? I understand he might want to have his name off that list, but still, does someone who's wrongly accused of a crime accept punishment anyway on someone else's behalf? No. Whatever it achieves in practice, the theory is just wrong.

If he doesn't pay, however, people are going to say: it's your name on the list, your IP, all evidence leads back to you, blah blah... you make up for what's been lost.

If Ken knows he really isn't at fault, then I don't think he should pay. But he should do everything in his power to help the situation, since he is pretty much involved and he claims to know the person.
 
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Quote:
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In terms of paying back the scam victim, Ken is in a lose-lose situation anyway. If he does pay, it's basically a confirmation of guilt in my eyes. Why should he pay for somebody else's mistake if he wasn't the one who scammed? I understand he might want to have his name off that list, but still, does someone who's wrongly accused of a crime accept punishment anyway on someone else's behalf? No. Whatever it achieves in practice, the theory is just wrong.

If he doesn't pay, however, people are going to say: it's your name on the list, your IP, all evidence leads back to you, blah blah... you make up for what's been lost.

If Ken knows he really isn't at fault, then I don't think he should pay. But he should do everything in his power to help the situation, since he is pretty much involved and he claims to know the person.
Amen.

 
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finished test,''3 history=awsome, science=...Dx

anyways... any progress so far._. ?
is 8.4k,
< i can afford to donate, i dont need to scam,,,
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If you didn't scam, then you're willing to pay back the victim on behalf of the real scammer? Wow. O.o

Sidetracking a bit from the whole Ken fiasco, I'd like to know if the proof that 2S3xy4u as a scammer, is conclusive.

Here is the proof posted in the screenshot thread: /forum/130354-post152.html

I saw a guy with a name similar to 2S3xy4u spamming in Mega earlier, assumed it was the same person... this one is 2s3xy4you.


I whispered him for the lulz to tell him no one would trade with him and GF since he's a scammer. It's possible it's not the same person, but I thought it was lol. >:


And... as lulzy as this sounds...


I looked over evilaznguy's screenshots again, and the item scammed is apparently one Gacha coin. There's no proof at all whether the coin was received or not, so I'm wondering how this can be conclusive proof? I'm not defending this guy, just wondering.

This guy here also claims that 2S3xy4u and himself are not the same person, and that 2S3xy4u is actually his brother. Lol? o_o


I don't know what to make of any of this, so am posting it here if anyone cares. x.x

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It's pretty stupid logic right there.

"That's an imposter. That's 2S3xy4u and I'm 2S3xy4You"
"Btw the other is my bro."

Since when do people blame their bro about a scam? .__.



Off topic: Jeez Ameh. You're such a well known scammer. lols.
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Rofl, I don't buy that. But I wonder if the original proof is actually sound. .__.

And yes I am. *scams all your galdurz* 8D
 
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He also accused azn of being a scammer in the evidence, and he blamed you for showing him the thread LOL. He also begged alot... Pretty desperate haha. ;/ So I think it's a pretty safe bet that it's him.
@Mirae: I know rite, srsly that's so lamee. xD Who blames their brother >_> It's like saying: "It was my mom! D:"
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LOL. Scammer actually admitting they scammed, that's so cool. Makes it easier for everyone when they don't deny it, less annoying. :3
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