Scammer Discussion Thread

[PastelRabbit]

For the record FuriousShooter has always been pretty sketchy. They followed me around for a day asking for my account info to look at my buffalo and continuously begged for myshop.

[TigerClaws]

O_O noooooo way, so iam not the first one O_O, hmmmmm
ok thnx 4 the info

[DOLLFACE]

Originally Posted by Shanni!

Added iPhat and PHAWT as another character for Sorayah(Celestyal)/iFartx3(xXPhawtAndHawtXx)

Umm, I don't support anyone or anything but I'm wondering how'd you know that PHAWT is another character of Sorayah (Celestyal)/iFartx3 (xXPhawtAndHawtXx)?

I'm asking, because I thought PHAWT is a different person. Oh well he used to be a friend lol.

[Shiki]

Originally Posted by Shanni!

Eh, okay. I got a little suspicious considering there's not many people with a Red Afro. I ran an IP check on ID279 and found it matched another member/account on the forums: Ken who is LoveKen in-game. They were originally going to sell us an afro but apparently got unbanned and sold it in-game. I contacted Ken through PM and basically got nowhere. He explained it was his friend and would try to get them to pay me back but nothing has happened since. Since I have no received any type of payment, I'm placing all blame on Ken because of the matching IP.
Added LoveKen/SkyFly/F2F to the list.

I want to point out that since Ken has already admitted that he,in fact knows this person. It's also possible that it is himself,unless he wants to make it clear.

[Ken]

yes, ill make it clear

k, i said "I know who scammed you", meaning that I,
KNOW him. i know lots of ppl, including Obama, i did not
say that he was a friend of mine, and i had only said that
i know what he had done after the trade, as in just knowing


i did use that ip, i will say it again, is either school
network, proxy or watever, most likely school network

lol...if i can contact my "friend" to take the blame, i
would be in this shit right now, how im really friends with
him, i can easily told him to contact u and shit


im the referrer to the id279, i had only known him for
like a few weeks it turned out that he isnt the kind of guy
i was thinking of (him=dumbass+annoying), i would inform
you if i had knew, since i wouldn't be dumb enough to have
him scam u while having any connections with me
also, during this whole few days that u guys was having the
trade, u did not contact me or anything, and i DID NOT KNOW
YET, so techniquely, u had contacted him not them (as in me
and him).


all i can do is to get him to talk to you (75%chances), but i
would not guarantee that "my friend" would pay you.

is nice of actually reasoning with me, so i can get out of this
crap, i will take a few more ss later, i hadnt do myshop trades
for a while now, and i always GF.

8.6ks bullcrap, cup of tea+some candies,
once you post that ken=scammer
what can i do? nothing.
since every1s gonna belive you, not that you are lying, but
rather misunderstanding.
who do you think im? a hella hated guy.

i put myself in your position, yes, i can see that im
most related to the scammer, and yes, you cannot do anything
except accusing me, yet no direct evidence had prove
that me LoveKen had done anything wrong, except
vending the afro. As u had said, there are not alot of
ref afros, but i asked him and he said that he didn't
buy it from me, im not sure about that though


but since you are claming that im a form of allice, then U
should tell ME what can I do to prove myself clear.


put yourself in my position

tell me,
what
can
i
do?

[Mazuiko]

The way I see it, yes there was evidence that this person scammed, but I don't think Ken should have been put on the list because in the case that it wasn't Ken, it seems no one decided to confront him about it before adding him to the list. The "evidence" aside from the screenshots seemed to be purely based on the scammer's IP matching Ken's. I just think, rather than jump the gun and point the finger at Ken for that, it should have been further looked into. Ken has every right to pretty much ask the accuser how to get himself out of this situation, whether he has anything to do with it or not.

I'm not taking any sides here, I'm just sharing my views on this because it doesn't seem fair to me.

[Moo]

I do kind of agree with Mazu. :x I'm not sure how the whole school network/proxy thing works, but isn't it possible more than one person could've used the same IP address at his school? @_@

[Dragon]

I'd just like to point out the fact that Ken (On the other thread) posted all these ways that he and his "friend" could've had the same IP. IMO, if you know the truth, just say it, instead of stating all the possibilities, making it sound like you're defending yourself and making examples of what may have happened.

And as well, it was clear that the scammer didn't really care about the MyShop Item as much as the fact of the satisfaction of scamming. So all the things about saying how you don't need the money, or how it was only 8.4k is irrelevant.

Of course the best thing Ken could do, seeing as you know the person in real life either from school, or something else, you could simply give a name and a way to contact the person in game. A main character that maybe someone knows is not you. I doubt any "newbie" would have the Afro to begin with. Either from getting it originally, or buying it with money.

Sorry if I sound like I'm being an ***, a similar situation happened to me before where I lost my Dread Set for merely lending it to someone and the same kind of story occurred.

[Renard]

Woot bring on da scammerz! Bad Ken q_q

[Ken]

._. i dont 100% know the truth, but i mangae to get him to get on msn some hours after now...so Shanni+Ren contact me to get his msn, no hes not a noobie, but i think he deleted his messed up dragon. Shanni+Rens telling the trusth, but there are definately some misunderstandings


actually, i googled his char and found this
/forum/trickster-onl...tml#post695926

[Renard]

So is he making a new mage? o.o

[Ken]

not sure, ill check

[Settie]

I'm on Ken's side, I believe him. He's pretty trustworthy in my opinion.

But I do agree with Scone, it needs to be looked into more, and they should be talking to Ken about it rather than just going and calling him a scammer straight off because of an IP.

[Esper]

There's something you guys don't know about.

IP Address and Host Name are two completely different things.
You can't have the same Host Name as another person unless you live in the same house/apartment. Also, the excuse of using a school computer is faulty.
I've already confirmed. University connections IP Address and Host Name are the same value, not a number and company host name.

High schools usually have an auto-block system that ban these type of forums. If you use a proxy, that can probably be tracked by the admins of the school too.


These are the reason as to why Ken was placed under suspicions.

[Moo]

Originally Posted by Dragon

And as well, it was clear that the scammer didn't really care about the MyShop Item as much as the fact of the satisfaction of scamming. So all the things about saying how you don't need the money, or how it was only 8.4k is irrelevant.

I have to agree with that. The F2F guy said he did it because he hated {Yuck Fou} so it's probably out of spite rather than greed. Assuming it's Ken, does he even have anything against that guild or the people in it? o_o

[Ken]

o.o...i barely know any1 in it... he had even spelled Yuck Fou wrong, im in private school
and there are many evidence and points that seems makes me suspicions, nor was i in any of their
kos, (before that is, now?..lol...)

[Xyden]

Does anybody have any evidence that HioWang is a scammer? Guy went to PvP and next thing he knows he's being attacked by everyone in there for it.
So rather than take his side, or the side of the ones pointing fingers, I would like proof that he is indeed one.

[ID279]

look look whos here, screw you too ken, holla

[Renard]

Wait wait...LOL?

[Esper]

Logged on just to say that and didn't create a defense case. This doesn't help the situation at all.