Scammer Discussion Thread

[Lishon123]

=.= -.- i didnt agree i logged off

[Esper]

Originally Posted by Lishon123

=.= -.- i didnt agree i logged off

You really need to stop contradicting yourself.

You did agree to the trade because you said you will recharge 50k. Logging off between a myshop transaction usually implies the person is a scammer because they probably don't have the money or item to trade for it.

[Lishon123]

yes i said i recharged 50k but i logged off because i dont want to deal and dude keeping myshop points for myself is a scam ? omg come and take my visa too ?

[Kusuriuri]

Originally Posted by Lishon123

=.= -.- i didnt agree i logged off

Oh really? These screenshots beg to differ.

Originally Posted by Dragon

Spoiler!

Some snippets, in case you cant read your own words you typed.

(from l0o0l) once u give me i wel gift you



(to l0o0l) trade now?
(from l0o0l) were to meet



(from l0o0l) recharged 50k

(from l0o0l) lets trade

Bolded alone proves you DID in fact agree to trade. Anything else you care to lie about while we're at it?

[Lishon123]

Me i cant read ? AND U DONT UNDERSTAND i logged off

[Kusuriuri]

The fact remains you still AGREED to the trade, and 2 days have passed since then. Are you done making excuses o_O? The evidence is right in front of your face. You're not being removed from the list.

[Lishon123]

oh thats prove nothing ur sad because u think im the lion who scammed ur friend >_>

[Kusuriuri]

Originally Posted by Lishon123

oh thats prove nothing ur sad because u think im the lion who scammed ur friend >_>

Im sad for telling you that you wont be removed purely because you proved YOURSELF that you never gifted, after AGREEING to gift? No.


And dont drag other drama into this. What happened to Ash is completely irrelevant to this. Again, you're whining and making excuses o_O You were caught in a lie dear. Face the facts. You tried to say you never agreed to the deal. We proved you did. Then you tried to say you logged off because you didnt want to do it, which, again, it was proven you DID agree to do it, so that was a lie too.



I'll ask again. Anything else you care to lie about?

[Lishon123]

u know what ? i really dont care about the scammer face or you well u dont deserve to be the leader of the scammers list u deserve to be leader of nothing and u need to buy a mind and i dont care ABout the scammers list if u butted me on the list with no prove then i dont care really for me ? i didnt scam anyone atleast my friend is with my side ur with dragon because more posts and known member this no fair u dont desrve to be the LEADER of scam list

[Rom]

Originally Posted by Lishon123

u dont deserve to be the leader of the scammers list

She does deserve it. She does a great job with the list. I really don't see where you're getting at.

Originally Posted by Lishon123

and u need to buy a mind

She already has one. And a great one at that. But to be honest, I think you lost yours a while back.

Originally Posted by Lishon123

and i dont care ABout the scammers list if u butted me on the list with no prove then i dont care really for me ?

Lols, the proof is right in your face. O_o You're denying every fact that is thrown at you. Which, proves even more that you ARE a scammer.

Originally Posted by Lishon123

i didnt scam anyone atleast my friend is with my side ur with dragon because more posts and known member this no fair u dont desrve to be the LEADER of scam list

Again, you're denying it when the proof was thrown in your face.

And lols at that last bolded part. I've known BloodVeil for what, about two years now? She doesn't favor ANYONE just because they're a known member or because they have more posts. She's taking Dragon's side because there's more than enough proof right in this very thread, that you are indeed a scammer.

You sir, are a failure at lying. Now please, to save yourself from any more embarassment, exit out the door on the west side of this forum. And have a nice day. :3

[Lishon123]

really? why dont u exist when its your fourm come and talk

[Rom]

Originally Posted by Lishon123

really? why dont u exist when its your fourm come and talk

Yes really. I will exit when i go to bed tonight. And no, it is not my forum. I am simply just a member here. Nothing more, nothing less. I am trying hard to understand your horrible grammer but, I can't quite understand what you mean by "come and talk". Because we are talking at the moment. But, I am now going to stay quiet and let BloodVeil do the rest of the talking. <3

[Lishon123]

what talking ? scammer list dosent exists with a failure leader

[Kusuriuri]

You supplied proof you did NOT gift, after agreeing to do so. Its been 2 days now. Facts are facts. The proof is there, right under your damn nose, that you scammed. Now stop whining. Frankly, you're getting to be an annoyance.

[Lishon123]

oh yea? theres NO PROVE OF THE TRADE!! omg go buy mind!!!

oh i thought u were talking about ur SOLID PROVE?!?! weres the solid prove?? omg thats kid problems i got better things to do sleeping is better then this problem

[Ken]

hm..@_@...if u dont care, why do u still have to stay here and argue with her...the prove is kinda good enough....and things had been organized after veil took over the thread

[SeraphicDragon]

Originally Posted by Mirae

This thread was not created for drama or flame-baiting.

Further issue will have to be posted / addressed here: Scammer Discussion Thread

Yes, I don't know why ppl aren't still using this thread.

Originally Posted by Mirae

Did you actually read the convo? Value said the items were on his fox, Geology. You just looked at time stamps and the inventory.

Yea, I read the convo. I also read that he said that l0o0l logged off Geology's buddylist, and all that. But in less than 1 min. the convo was still going on, for at least 36 more secs.(referring to the timestamp). So, how is showing the ss of Geology, which was earlier than the convo. relevant? Also, from what i mentioned earlier, all of the equips seems to be there. If the ss of the trade transaction wasn't taken place, no of us know if it was actually taken place or not, and if the trade had never taken place, getting a ss of l0o0l wouldn't prove anything, since there were no proof of it ever happening. Also, with regards to the ss of the transaction of the trade, besides it being somewhat necessary to show proof, if Dragon would have taken a ss afterwards, when his computer wasn't "emo" anymore. It would have been a little bit more credible if that ss showed a tenter spear missing.

Originally Posted by BloodVeil

This is a demand, and not a request. Post your gift history. Since you're so absolutely bent on whining about being accused, then you should have no qualms of posting your history. If you didnt scam, then it should have records of you gifting Res the boxes, correct?

Sure, that'll work, only that it'll be valid if the trade had actually taken place. (meaning that there's proof of it taking place)

Originally Posted by BloodVeil

Either show you can defend yourself and disprove accusations, or shut up and stop cluttering this thread with mindless ramble. Whats sad is, you KNOW there is something posted showing you never gifted, and yet you cant even be bothered to show your own history, instead coming into this thread to whine anytime someone posts anything against you. And frankly, Im getting thoroughly sick of it.




Post your history. Show you gifted. If you refuse to post, or you post, and it shows you never gifted, then the only conclusion that anyone can draw is that you are a scammer.





The choice is entirely yours. Since you're so hellbent on demanding proof, while showing none in your own defense, this is your chance to redeem yourself. Take it or leave it.




And yes. It helps if you completely read screenshots dears. Res discussed the trade on his lion, Value, but stated he wanted the items on his fox, Geology, which is on a different account. He multi cliented them. Therefore, there are screens from two different characters.

Like I said earlier, I did read the convo. And again, the discussion of the trade happened after the ss of Geology, which is when l0o0l logged off.

Originally Posted by BloodVeil

Oh really? These screenshots beg to differ.






Some snippets, in case you cant read your own words you typed.







Bolded alone proves you DID in fact agree to trade. Anything else you care to lie about while we're at it?

The bold text did say that he agreed to trade, but not necessarily going through with the trade. In order to be a scammer, you must actually commit a scam on someone. Not trading with someone after saying you will, isn't called scamming.

Originally Posted by Yuutsu

She does deserve it. She does a great job with the list. I really don't see where you're getting at.



She already has one. And a great one at that. But to be honest, I think you lost yours a while back.



Lols, the proof is right in your face. O_o You're denying every fact that is thrown at you. Which, proves even more that you ARE a scammer.



Again, you're denying it when the proof was thrown in your face.

And lols at that last bolded part. I've known BloodVeil for what, about two years now? She doesn't favor ANYONE just because they're a known member or because they have more posts. She's taking Dragon's side because there's more than enough proof right in this very thread, that you are indeed a scammer.

You sir, are a failure at lying. Now please, to save yourself from any more embarassment, exit out the door on the west side of this forum. And have a nice day. :3

Your comments are really similar to L0o0l's; it doesn't help this discussion at all, none of it has any explaination to it, oh and most of it are just flaming.

Originally Posted by Dragon

The time stamps are messed up, because as I said before, my laptop didn't register, so I had to take screenshots after the fact. Of course, that's the same reason as to why I have no screenshot of the trade.

Regarding my inventory,http://www.mymmogames.net/forum/tric...hop-items.html This link should tell you why. I have been hunting Tenter for quite a while, so it's not a HUGE thing that I got scammed, but in the minds of others, it may be. If you do not believe me, you do not have to accept this as evidence, as I regret that I could not give further proof.

I'm saying this because other players had to show more proof in order to prove themselves that they got scammed. So, I don't think that someone should be put on the list when there wasn't enough proof for it.

Originally Posted by Lishon123

oh ok ur laptob bad but i dont care since no solid prove why im in a scammer list ?

*That, and some other quote.*

and YOU, i don't know what exactly what happened, but what you're saying isn't helping.
The only reason why i'm saying any of these things, is because I don't see enough evidence to find you guilty. Since you were put on the list anyways, I'm defending not you, but the fairness of putting someone on the scammer list.





Last thing I wanted say, listen to Mirae and use the Discussion thread for this stuff.

[Dragon]

Originally Posted by SeraphicDragon

Yes, I don't know why ppl aren't still using this thread.

Of course why I'm moving it here now.

Originally Posted by SeraphicDragon

Yea, I read the convo. I also read that he said that l0o0l logged off Geology's buddylist, and all that. But in less than 1 min. the convo was still going on, for at least 36 more secs.(referring to the timestamp). So, how is showing the ss of Geology, which was earlier than the convo. relevant? Also, from what i mentioned earlier, all of the equips seems to be there. If the ss of the trade transaction wasn't taken place, no of us know if it was actually taken place or not, and if the trade had never taken place, getting a ss of l0o0l wouldn't prove anything, since there were no proof of it ever happening. Also, with regards to the ss of the transaction of the trade, besides it being somewhat necessary to show proof, if Dragon would have taken a ss afterwards, when his computer wasn't "emo" anymore. It would have been a little bit more credible if that ss showed a tenter spear missing.

Does it really matter what order I take the screenshots in? You think that l0o0l logged back on in that 1 min, talked to me about all that?, FYI I had to scroll up (which is why the time stamp is after the Geology one) and you could clearly see that I logged on Geology in the middle of the conversation. And the problem is that to you, the equipment may seem there. Unfortunately, you have no idea how much I've been hunting bosses and how many boss equipment I have. As a matter of fact, I did take all my screenshots afterwards if you can't tell. And thing is, I wouldn't purposely go to the bank and deposit a Tenter Spear as it makes no sense that I should have to do something that looks like I'm framing a person when I'm not. Here's a screenshot of some uniques I still have. I've sold a few/lent a few out (which I can tell you the names but I feel it unnecessary) aswell.

Originally Posted by SeraphicDragon

Like I said earlier, I did read the convo. And again, the discussion of the trade happened after the ss of Geology, which is when l0o0l logged off.

WRONG, it did not happen after. Use logic please. How does all that conversation occur in 1 minute. As well, you can see that halfway through the conversation that Geology "logs" in. That should hint that the conversation occurs way before I even get on Geology.

[Artixt]

Originally Posted by Ken

hm..@_@...if u dont care, why do u still have to stay here and argue with her...the prove is kinda good enough....and things had been organized after veil took over the thread

^Qft, i still don't see what's the point arguing when there's already enough proof. ._.

[Kusuriuri]

I find that 'better things to do' comment quite humerous, considering I actually was sleeping through the rest of that LOL. > w> It was quite a pleasant 10 hours~



As for 'I dont know why you people are still in this thread' comments, I can just ask Kowiz to move it all, no big deal o_O



Short comment is short, in a rush atm