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I can't get over how different her sprites look compared to the other characters. Her animations look awkward and way too much like a pet's too.
NTreev probably lost or got rid of the original sprite artist, but still...
I think the old sprite artist was gone or lost interest along with Amcho, the original artist for the Revolution artwork. So with the new sparkly-moe artist, I think they got someone else to do the new sprites in-game like Pia's and the sprites made for the map re-makes like Snow Hill, Techichi and Tapcaso. Pauls had a mix of both to addt he charm. (AKA having teeth on sprites?) My sister was still fangirling that Paula has twin-tails, the first playable with that kind of hair style! :P

Also.. No artwork for her 2nd job? :X
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I'm still rather bothered by the 9th character mucking up a class system that was quite fine. What are they going to do for magic? Elemental/Light/Dark seems like a pretty solid system, and I don't know how a 3rd mage could come about and be different from that. The new character slots and the new UI look rather nice though.
 
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I'm still rather bothered by the 9th character mucking up a class system that was quite fine. What are they going to do for magic? Elemental/Light/Dark seems like a pretty solid system, and I don't know how a 3rd mage could come about and be different from that. The new character slots and the new UI look rather nice though.
Battle Mage? You know.. Make the challenge with the 4411 build and rely on AC or something? (Not in a Soul Master way.) That wuold be a hard class, but I would love to see that! Also maybe a Native type character? (And not the kind from Johan's/Dragon's bloodline.)
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I'm still rather bothered by the 9th character mucking up a class system that was quite fine. What are they going to do for magic? Elemental/Light/Dark seems like a pretty solid system, and I don't know how a 3rd mage could come about and be different from that. The new character slots and the new UI look rather nice though.
You have to keep in mind the new classes are 100% separate from what's established - for example, Paula has one one advancement path, using a new weapon, and has her own unique set of skills. (feel like I'm reading this as you meaning how do we handle hybrids now qq)

I might be reading what you said wrong :l and I agree a Battle Mage makes sense to move to next.
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You have to keep in mind the new classes are 100% separate from what's established - for example, Paula has one one advancement path, using a new weapon, and has her own unique set of skills. (feel like I'm reading this as you meaning how do we handle hybrids now qq)

I might be reading what you said wrong :l and I agree a Battle Mage makes sense to move to next.
Battle Mage was what I was thinking as well... I guess the part that bothers me the most about this is that I'd much rather have new skills and weapons for all characters over new characters (mainly because, once again, the "main eight" were pretty damn solid). For a while now I've wanted a more diverse weapons and skills that promote weirder builds.

I mean... Let's face it. Charm types are rather unhappy in the weapon department as there aren't many non-cash AP/HV weapons. Magic types have a pathetic amount of options available for elemental reinforce-able gear without cash as well.

Some of the things I'm hoping for...

-Some kind of weapon revamp

-Swords are fine as they are for AP/AC builds
-Gauntlets being created for AP/DX builds
-Staffs being remade to allow dark/light attributes starting at around level 60
-Tomes being created with elemental attributes, splitting from staffs at 60
-One-handed hammers for AP/HP focused charm builds
-Rapiers and thin swords for HV/LK focused charm builds
-Guns seem pretty legit as they are
-Daggers being remade to support critical hit chance. Fox's stealth giving critical boosts

-The implementation of new spells to promote stranger builds

-MA being implemented into other characters so that Magic isn't permanently at one for just about every non-magic character.
-More diverse skills in general that focus on a wide array than stats rather than a few

That's what I want to see in the future :V
 
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WHAAT. Seriously?!?! To be able to get this update would be hella awesome. Too bad we can't (but i sure hope we can).
 
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Battle Mage was what I was thinking as well... I guess the part that bothers me the most about this is that I'd much rather have new skills and weapons for all characters over new characters (mainly because, once again, the "main eight" were pretty damn solid). For a while now I've wanted a more diverse weapons and skills that promote weirder builds.

I mean... Let's face it. Charm types are rather unhappy in the weapon department as there aren't many non-cash AP/HV weapons. Magic types have a pathetic amount of options available for elemental reinforce-able gear without cash as well.

Some of the things I'm hoping for...

-Some kind of weapon revamp

-Swords are fine as they are for AP/AC builds
-Gauntlets being created for AP/DX builds
-Staffs being remade to allow dark/light attributes starting at around level 60
-Tomes being created with elemental attributes, splitting from staffs at 60
-One-handed hammers for AP/HP focused charm builds
-Rapiers and thin swords for HV/LK focused charm builds
-Guns seem pretty legit as they are
-Daggers being remade to support critical hit chance. Fox's stealth giving critical boosts

-The implementation of new spells to promote stranger builds

-MA being implemented into other characters so that Magic isn't permanently at one for just about every non-magic character.
-More diverse skills in general that focus on a wide array than stats rather than a few

That's what I want to see in the future :V
Lions always ignored, sigh...

Guns - 3-5 Shots Lowest Damage Average Reload
Bows - Low Damage Quick Reload
Crossbow - Medium Damage Slow Reload
Cannon - Highest Damage Slowest Reload

And few skills factoring into each type of range weapon. Attribute based if possible too.

Also, change gun damage and based it off of DA because shotting someone's weak spot is the same as a fox flinging knives at it.
 
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I mean... Let's face it. Charm types are rather unhappy in the weapon department as there aren't many non-cash AP/HV weapons. Magic types have a pathetic amount of options available for elemental reinforce-able gear without cash as well.
Are you kidding?

Altiverse Maiden Queen Mace - Charms
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Altiverse Crimson Staff - Mages
Powerful Chrome Staff - Mages
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^ All completely free.
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Lions always ignored, sigh...

Guns - 3-5 Shots Lowest Damage Average Reload
Bows - Low Damage Quick Reload
Crossbow - Medium Damage Slow Reload
Cannon - Highest Damage Slowest Reload

And few skills factoring into each type of range weapon. Attribute based if possible too.

Also, change gun damage and based it off of DA because shotting someone's weak spot is the same as a fox flinging knives at it.
No thanks. I'll stick with guns and the regular AC formula for them. There's a difference between sensing an enemy's weak spot (DA) and seeing an enemy's weak spot (AC) as well.

The only change I would be fine with for guns is the ability for them to have a small shield-like thing, kind of like a wrist-guard sort-of thing. Has 1 slot if in-game, 2 slots if MyShop or high tier (Powerful, Altiverse, Legendary). Has some base HP and defenses, though not nearly as much as a shield.
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Are you kidding?

Altiverse Maiden Queen Mace - Charms
Altiverse Crimson Sword - Charms
Altiverse Maiden Queen Staff - Mages
Altiverse Crimson Staff - Mages

All of these are unique equips. Kind of proves my point that there aren't many standard equip options for charms. Also, needing a unique weapon just for an elemental attribute is silly. :V

Powerful Chrome Staff - Mages
Powerful Arc Staff - Mages

I see no way to put elements on these, just a ton of MA

^ All completely free.
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Also, @SnowBerry

I'd much rather have a type of weapon aimed at every character before giving 4 different weapon types to lions. Also, Jare is correct, guns are about aiming whilst throwing weapons are more about assassination and sensing an enemy's weak points. I imagine that those big guns that the lion uses must put out quite a bit of recoil. With guns like that, hitting the target is a priority, not carefully seeking a weak spot.

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Paula bothers me alot. She looks like more of a monster than a playable character.
I don't find her cute at all.
They should have attempted to make her drawn the same way as the original 8.
 
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oh man i would have relished at the thought of a 4th character slot! but now it's never gonna happen without a miracle 8(((

and yea i agree that paula looks and feels totally different from the original 8...i guess she looks more updated and i guess she's considered 2nd generation trickster? :s
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Altiverses are uniques...?
 
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I do believe the tier for 5-star is called "Unique" or perhaps "Legendary", but I can't remember :V
 
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I do believe the tier for 5-star is called "Unique" or perhaps "Legendary", but I can't remember :V
Well when I hear unique I think of Boss stuff. But I thought it was fine, you want a good weapons you can either pay the cash for it or work hard for it in game....and the in game weapons had the potential to be better than anything myshop ever put out, I loved the altiverse system. :/ It wasn't that hard to get yourself a 3s alt weapon with OK ap and hv.

Id only agree that all the Altiverse staffs should have had the ability to comp every element, because it was pretty messed up for any high level that wasn't dark/elec/fire.
 
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Maybe a non-elemental caster, perhaps?
 
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I do believe the tier for 5-star is called "Unique" or perhaps "Legendary", but I can't remember :V
Legendary Uniques are Boss equipments.

Absolute Uniques are the Shining Crystal and Fallen Watcher sets.

Altiverses are in-game equipments you get if you actually work for them. (Luck plays a huge part in it too when opening boxes ofcourse.) They're not Legendaries......
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A Battle Mage would do...

And as for a non-elemental mage... i hope it would be a Time Mage with an active/passive skill that grants 10% to double attack or double cast. Are the current magic type has double cast or something similar?

Im getting crazy... haha
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And I'd like to see some force magician or whatever it would be called, with some kind of magical shards circling around him (which stacks up to number x and regenerates over time) and used to cast powerful spells or granting his attacks elemental properties while he itself is a neutral mage.
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