Future Trickster Content (please, read the first post)

[kale15]

Originally Posted by fate23

any idea if this new harkon defense requires a guardian?

according to the page the requirements are lvl 30+ and only 6 times a day. as lvl 30s can't have a guardian I don't think it's required.

[vs824]

all these stuff excites me... especially that wing and backpack , been dreaming of stuff like that to come on TO.

thanks Kale...

[Caustic]

man.... this game is becoming so complex!

[DELiTO]

Those nate frameworks would mark, from my point of view, the official death of trickster online, when the greed became so ridiculously big that you can have absolutely ANYTHING YOU WANT if you pay, not figuratively speaking, ACTUAL 100% of what you want.

"Why fix the LK status? Why fix the Compound Mastery skill? Let's just put some frames they can have max results and stop complaining..."

The old Harkon Defense is one of the few things that keeps the small trickster community united and they are going to make rooms now, spreading even more the community...

Probably the worst update in Trickster's history... Cool wings and pets though..

[fate23]

@kale thanks again for the info

@kanacss um im confused as to what you said "you can have absolutely ANYTHING YOU WANT if you pay, not figuratively speaking, ACTUAL 100% of what you want." Is this for the nate framework?

[DELiTO]

Originally Posted by fate23

@kale thanks again for the info

@kanacss um im confused as to what you said "you can have absolutely ANYTHING YOU WANT if you pay, not figuratively speaking, ACTUAL 100% of what you want." Is this for the nate framework?

Yep.***********

[fate23]

But it's an in-game item from the new harkon defense.

[DELiTO]

Originally Posted by fate23

But it's an in-game item from the new harkon defense.

Even worse.

[SteelFlex]

Not like we win harkon defense every time we go

[Rydia]

Originally Posted by kanacss

Even worse.

How is that worse? Are you saying it would be better if these were for sale in myshop? You have to actually do in game work to get these not just whip out your wallet and be done with it. We don't even have all the details yet, we don't know how hard it will be to get these coins or what other catches there might be so it's a little premature to say its the end of Trickster.

[Nebula]

2400 (things) to get a 100% framework. That seems rather trouble some given that the equips require the same (thing).
The words at the top of the columns were the same from what I could see.

Anyways Thanks Kale for the translations.

[DELiTO]

Well, I am not sure how that system will work and it might be good if it's extremely hard to get those frames, however, following the trickster updates pattern, they will take the worst path possible. Expect something worse than you imagine, works 99% of the time for trickster.

I just think they are wrong when they are trying to make every aspect of the game "tradeable" like "compound results" I think some things should be kept depending on real life luck, you know? Don't put everything in a store..

[Valese]

Originally Posted by kanacss

Well, I am not sure how that system will work and it might be good if it's extremely hard to get those frames, however, following the trickster updates pattern, they will take the worst path possible. Expect something worse than you imagine, works 99% of the time for trickster.

I just think they are wrong when they are trying to make every aspect of the game "tradeable" like "compound results" I think some things should be kept depending on real life luck, you know? Don't put everything in a store..

You do realize a lot of the hardcore players prefer using Elixirs to get even higher compounds right? It's the same thing as Tempering Gems;

1. You take the risk of paying real money to get Tempering Gems and get a chance to go over max.
2. You stick to free items (Chaos Feathers) and get a decent or near max temper.

=

1. You risk paying real money and get Elixirs to get a chance to go over max.
2. You stick to free items (Framework + ingame Gompound Stone) to get a max compound on 1 slot (if you actually take the time to go Harkon Protect for however many times and win to collect 2400 coins and then that times 3 for 1 equipment.)

And I hope (and think) that Harkon Coins won't be tradeable.

[ansem112]

Originally Posted by Valese

You do realize a lot of the hardcore players prefer using Elixirs to get even higher compounds right? It's the same thing as Tempering Gems;

1. You take the risk of paying real money to get Tempering Gems and get a chance to go over max.
2. You stick to free items (Chaos Feathers) and get a decent or near max temper.

=

1. You risk paying real money and get Elixirs to get a chance to go over max.
2. You stick to free items (Framework + ingame Gompound Stone) to get a max compound on 1 slot (if you actually take the time to go Harkon Protect for however many times and win to collect 2400 coins and then that times 3 for 1 equipment.)

And I hope (and think) that Harkon Coins won't be tradeable.

That and maybe they limit it to 1 framework per item as Kale had mentioned before. We do not know for sure yet so best thing to wait instead of complain. In my opinion it would be an awesome addition~

[Valese]

Originally Posted by ansem112

That and maybe they limit it to 1 framework per item as Kale had mentioned before. We do not know for sure yet so best thing to wait instead of complain. In my opinion it would be an awesome addition~

I hope it's not 1 framework per equipment.. q_q too much work to get 2400 coins to limit it like that (if the coins are really hard to get).

But yea.. I'm so impatient now, I hope they release it on eTO soon xD

[vs824]

Originally Posted by kanacss

Well, I am not sure how that system will work and it might be good if it's extremely hard to get those frames, however, following the trickster updates pattern, they will take the worst path possible. Expect something worse than you imagine, works 99% of the time for trickster.

I just think they are wrong when they are trying to make every aspect of the game "tradeable" like "compound results" I think some things should be kept depending on real life luck, you know? Don't put everything in a store..

hmmmmmmm... do u possess clairvoyance?

[DELiTO]

Originally Posted by Valese

You do realize a lot of the hardcore players prefer using Elixirs to get even higher compounds right? It's the same thing as Tempering Gems;

1. You take the risk of paying real money to get Tempering Gems and get a chance to go over max.
2. You stick to free items (Chaos Feathers) and get a decent or near max temper.

=

1. You risk paying real money and get Elixirs to get a chance to go over max.
2. You stick to free items (Framework + ingame Gompound Stone) to get a max compound on 1 slot (if you actually take the time to go Harkon Protect for however many times and win to collect 2400 coins and then that times 3 for 1 equipment.)

And I hope (and think) that Harkon Coins won't be tradeable.

This is stupid. I compound with elixirs and some times I get near minimal results. The frameworks on the other side are a 100% guarantee of max compound if I am not mistaken. Don't try to compare 2 completely different items.

About the tempering gems, if you are lucky you can get an over 100% potential equipment spending 400k points. IF YOU ARE LUCKY. I like tempering, it depends on real life luck, the tempering gem is, fortunately, a joke, having nearly 0% chances of the temper resultto be hax. (That means even with your daddy's money you won't get OP gear, which is fair to the players that can't pay for it.)

The only thing you said that makes sense is that Harkon Coins shouldn't be tradeable.

Originally Posted by ansem112

That and maybe they limit it to 1 framework per item as Kale had mentioned before. We do not know for sure yet so best thing to wait instead of complain. In my opinion it would be an awesome addition~

1 framework per item would be a less bad idea.

Originally Posted by vs824

hmmmmmmm... do u possess clairvoyance?

TL;DR -> Wait and see for yourself.

As I said, it's a pattern. I didn't say it was going to be bad, I said the chances of being bad were high. Just think, the last good thing they did was the Private Shop Search and the Guild System. Those 2 were good updates although I would consider them low priority stuff compared to what needs to be implemented.

Now let's check the others:
New skills updates: My fox is lv 276 and the only skill I got was a faster reload passive skill, useless skill on high level monsters that require a powerful skill to kill.
Buffalos got a healing skill while standing still. ROFL.
Raccoons, a suicide bomber skill. ROFL.

Neil's camp, Tapasco Spa. Same quests we already did, different npc and different items. More boring stuff.

Even back in the days, everybody used to be in ONE boss room waiting for the boss to spawn. Everyone together. They updated it and put everyone in their cube office. Do you hunt bosses with your friends? Do you hunt bosses with your whole guild? Probably not. Encouraging solo game-play style is the first sign they have no idea of what they are doing. You only go in a boss room in a party if you are helping someone to kill the boss or if you are being helped, you wouldn't do it normally would you? Share the unique? Naah.

Spicy Dragon. Memory tests, puzzles, nice new content but ooops you are still hunting him alone... I guess you don't need friends anyway, let's play solo !

Anyway I think this is not the place to discuss it. I'm out !

[Rydia]

How is the new harkon system encouraging solo game play? You make a room and other people join you...

I do remember when there was ONE boss room and I remember everyone complained and everyone wanted instanced rooms so that the less hax people would have their fair chance at a boss. We're never happy are we?

Edit/ And the new buffalo lightning skill is like the best skill ever did you miss that one? Who cares about the healing one.

[DELiTO]

Originally Posted by Rydia

How is the new harkon system encouraging solo game play? You make a room and other people join you...

I do remember when there was ONE boss room and I remember everyone complained and everyone wanted instanced rooms so that the less hax people would have their fair chance at a boss. We're never happy are we?

I guess the only answer I have for that is that the bosses shouldn't be so easy and the system is broken from the root. I guess we are never happy. I myselfplay the game for the chatting only

Nice video here -> Granado Espada Bigmama Raid - YouTube

/Edit
I was just pointing out the bad skills. Tell me the skill hunter lords got that are as good as the lightning. It would be fair for us to receive a decent skill like the lightning, no?

[Valese]

Originally Posted by kanacss

This is stupid. I compound with elixirs and some times I get near minimal results. The frameworks on the other side are a 100% guarantee of max compound if I am not mistaken. Don't try to compare 2 completely different items.

Frameworks give you a 100% IF you get the one that costs 2400 points, and IF you have the patience to actually participate in Harkon Protect that many times to collect that many coins.

Originally Posted by kanacss

About the tempering gems, if you are lucky you can get an over 100% potential equipment spending 400k points. IF YOU ARE LUCKY. I like tempering, it depends on real life luck, the tempering gem is, fortunately, a joke, having nearly 0% chances of the temper resultto be hax.

I bought Tempering Gems in a pack of 5 not too long ago. It took me 4 tries to get over 100%. 400k points? Nowhere near it. Thank you very much.

Originally Posted by kanacss

New skills updates: My fox is lv 276 and the only skill I got was a faster reload passive skill, useless skill on high level monsters that require a powerful skill to kill.
Buffalos got a healing skill while standing still. ROFL.
Raccoons, a suicide bomber skill. ROFL.

Thief Master & Explorer skills (which are fyi the real fox skills) are one of the best new skills that got released.

Buffalo's can actually walk while getting healed and it stacks.

Please don't hate. No one tells you you have to stick to your Hunter Lord. Make a new character instead of complaining about "monsters that require powerful skills to kill".

Originally Posted by kanacss

Neil's camp, Tapasco Spa. Same quests we already did, different npc and different items. More boring stuff.

Great EXP, new stories, beautiful new maps, challenging Spa Floor 4 :)

Originally Posted by kanacss

Even back in the days, everybody used to be in ONE boss room waiting for the boss to spawn. Everyone together. They updated it and put everyone in their cube office. Do you hunt bosses with your friends? Do you hunt bosses with your whole guild? Probably not.

You know why they changed it to "own cube office"? So everyone will get an equal chance of getting a Boss Unique instead of getting kicked out of the trials every time the fastest hunter would kill the Boss.

Anyway, I'm done here too. Don't wanna spam this thread with nonsense :l