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01-23-2012   #9741 (permalink)
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Change SoH then so they don't need MA for the shield or something, cause this just puts dark mages at such a huge disadvantage. I'm complaining about it because I am a dark mage and I don't want to think about stacking element percentage/MA/LK/HP/HV for PvP
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I personally think it was to address the problem with Light Hybrids, who can more or less just stack MA everywhere and not have to worry about any other stat (in PvM). So while it was designed to nerf Light Hybrids, it kind of just whiffed and hit all Magics.

However, I would like to point out that your comparisons are inaccurate. It is somewhat of a rational change that you could argue in favor and against. Your other comparisons are just random changes to stats for no reason. It is somewhat logical that elemental magic damage have an elemental attr% component of it as Powers already had that component prior to the change and now Magics are getting it as well.

I don't agree with the change, but I feel in a way as if people are almost being irrational about it when we don't even have the full-scope of what the change is.
She meant it's ridiculous to change the whole formula of the skills after 5 years, after everyone's gotten their sets and compounded everything, finally finished and got the stats they want after spending tons of money. Now they can start all over again. <:
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I loved the new skills! Wow, the Soul Master skill seems to be super uber hax!
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When will the patch with the nerf come, or has it been implemented already in that server?

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Change SoH then so they don't need MA for the shield or something, cause this just puts dark mages at such a huge disadvantage. I'm complaining about it because I am a dark mage and I don't want to think about stacking element percentage/MA/LK/HP/HV for PvP
Dark Mages (yes I am aware of Hybrids) were already at a huge disadvantage. Remember how almost no one goes Dark Lord? Maybe it jas something to do along the lines of the fact that they've been using %attr to make their third job skills better than their second job skills.

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She meant it's ridiculous to change the whole formula of the skills after 5 years, after everyone's gotten their sets and compounded everything, finally finished and got the stats they want after spending tons of money. Now they can start all over again. <:
New and occasionally better MyShop sets are released frequently. I would say that's no different since the best will want to cash in for the best gear when those better sets are released.
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uh, you did hear from the previous post that the Buffalo Lightning skill is going to get nerfed right?
Yes I did read that. I still think it will be stronger based on how much damage I see Buffs doing on average with just a single click and a Tenter Spear with buffs active. It also stuns, something Staff of Thunder doesn't do.

Still hoping they reconsider the change to elemental spells...

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OMG they're ruining the game by doing things to skills, I don't know what they're doing but there's no doubt it's breaking the game. Everyone panic and run, it's the end of trickster as they are doing things to skills! You don't understand how scary it is that they are doing things to skills, everyone to the shelter!

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Yes I did read that. I still think it will be stronger based on how much damage I see Buffs doing on average with just a single click and a Tenter Spear with buffs active. It also stuns, something Staff of Thunder doesn't do.

Still hoping they reconsider the change to elemental spells...

ooo stuns, now thats gonna be quite interesting, and yeah they have tenter spear to make full use of it
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OMG they're ruining the game by doing things to skills, I don't know what they're doing but there's no doubt it's breaking the game. Everyone panic and run, it's the end of trickster as they are doing things to skills! You don't understand how scary it is that they are doing things to skills, everyone to the shelter!

I don't know how I can be a more vague fear monger and get you to flee from something that I don't know what it is.
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omg they're ruining the game by doing things to skills, i don't know what they're doing but there's no doubt it's breaking the game. Everyone panic and run, it's the end of trickster as they are doing things to skills! You don't understand how scary it is that they are doing things to skills, everyone to the shelter!

i don't know how i can be a more vague fear monger and get you to flee from something that i don't know what it is.
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I've been wondering the same thing. I guess it's all a matter of waiting.

I did find this interesting, though I don't know what it means really.
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I think this new SM skill looks potentially very useful in GVG/PVP.
Assuming that its a temporary banish/invisible/pop in and out for targets. You use it on enemies, and walk into the banished area, ready to spam your AOE skills when the targets pop back out.

Or you could use it to buy some time for skill cooldown plus annoying enemies.
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As for elemental magic skills we know nothing about them. I will start worry when I see new formula and do some calculations.

Its funny how most of people is saying that they shouldn't change skills and before we knew what new skills were (more or less) most people were hoping for general skill balances and changes to skills we already had.
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Believe me, Dussty, it is NOT funny. EVERY class, EVERY exept mages, can fight in many ways. Powers/charms can just whack things with their haxed elemental attr, no need for skills at all. Same can be applied to foxes, lions has guns, which single shot blows of the roof compared to others (lion single shot = other class average skill). Mages has ONLY magic.
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+ what more I want to say, not every player can get 4G sets, you guys didnt get this part. What simple player from earth like me or many ppl out there, not these my hax users (I'm not blaming them, they pay for their game and it's obvious, they get more advantages), what can WE do about it? There is almost no in-game weapons with attr that would be geared toward mages. Not even talking about hats/capes/accs. Altiverses are OK, but there are 7 elements ingame and only 1 different element set per 1 lvl range. Elemental skills comes at very early stage of mage play (TM 55), and 1st alti set is lvl 110. What to do UNTIL lvl 110? Get all 1st job skills or what? + at this point, element selection comes out, because amount of attr items isn't equal i.e. there are only very few in-game items excluding uniques that use electro. While dark/fire/light has most items.
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OMG they're ruining the game by doing things to skills, I don't know what they're doing but there's no doubt it's breaking the game. Everyone panic and run, it's the end of trickster as they are doing things to skills! You don't understand how scary it is that they are doing things to skills, everyone to the shelter!

I don't know how I can be a more vague fear monger and get you to flee from something that I don't know what it is.
We were talking about the change in formula's, making elementals necessary- not optional- for magic users. Neither of us said anything about the new skills.


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^ Mages have Cure. And SoH for Lights. And a powerful cost-effective 1st job single-target offensive skill.
How to survive in PvP with Cure, SoH and AR only? Most use Electro and Fire Skills = elementals.

Ignore the PvP part if you "don't care" about it. Let's see anyone go and try to kill a boss with only AR. Bet that won't be happy fun tiemz. :l
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