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any info on the level 10 duration of the sheep's field skills?

if the duration is longer than the cooldown there's gonna be some serious leveling

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Just in time for my Kitty ^^;

I had been training between her, my lion, and my dragon... taking a break for my bunny. She has floating TM waiting too, so that will be nice.
 
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7s cast on the sheep skill is a bit absurd... anyone know how the Oath of Blood will work? I read somewhere that it uses 52% HP at master level which seems a bit much considering how low Dark Dragons HP typically is already.
Thats a crappy translation you got there...

Anyway here is the ACTUAL formula

Dmg increase = Dark Skill's dmg 15% (when Mst.)

How much HP cost =
When Skill activate HP lost= Dark Skill's MP Cost 52%(when Mst.)

If you have high HP, then its a good skill. AND IT IS RECOMMENDED TO MST. ASAP OR DON"T USE AT ALL because at lvl it the HP cost is x 100% meaning if Dark lance cost 294MP, you lost 294 HP. But if you mst. it, it will only cost you 153 HP.

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any info on the level 10 duration of the sheep's field skills?

if the duration is longer than the cooldown there's gonna be some serious leveling

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The lava fields has a 14sec duration and 20 sec cooldown. The swamp field is like Tesla field with 1 time dmg not a duration skill...

The wind explosion(Gale break) is really fun to play with and has cool effects. But... unless your being mob 24/7 and have it Mst. its not that useful <_< since the wind explode in 2-3 sec when mst. and 6-7 sec when NOT. (lets just say its placing a bomb and wait for it to explode... all near it shall be banished 8D)

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There's no way that x 10 is going to make it into eTO given every other skill for shuriken has a /10, lol
um, where is your base for that statement for the 2 shuriken skills? I would like to see how you arrive at the /10 for shuriken AP nerf. If so the MMOG wiki needs a serious revamping...
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It has been posted on another thread but here's a video from the (i think it is) the sheep's wind skill, fox skill and buffalo's earth skill (like this last better *-*)

YouTube - Trickster - New Skill (Sheep Fox Buff)
 
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It has been posted on another thread but here's a video from the (i think it is) the sheep's wind skill, fox skill and buffalo's earth skill (like this last better *-*)

YouTube - Trickster - New Skill (Sheep Fox Buff)
yea thats those skills... and ice prison from sheep and possibly a lock-on. thats about all that i can figure from there.
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um, where is your base for that statement for the 2 shuriken skills? I would like to see how you arrive at the /10 for shuriken AP nerf. If so the MMOG wiki needs a serious revamping...
Shuriken Master and Fan of Knives are both nerfed from jTO. From jTO wiki, SM formula is (DA + AP) * 33 - 1 and FK formula is (DA + AP) * 40. eTO has AP/10 in these formulas specifically to nerf the damage: while the wiki does not have the FK formula listed, it does have the SM formula, and personal testing I've done has proven that that formula and FK formula with AP/10 are both accurate. I can provide screenshots later if you'd like.

Given that context, there is no way that Chain Throw will have AP * 10 when it comes to eTO simply because they've already underpowered both shuriken skills for this game and have set a precedent. With that being said, even in a worst case scenario where the formula is nerfed to (DA * 16 + AP/10) * 4.2 (as opposed to a mid-case scenario where the nerf is only applied once, giving us (DA * 16 + AP) * 4.2), the damage is still quite good and outperforms both Landmine and EE.

EDIT: Also Chain Throw looks awesome in that vid and I can't wait to get it

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Shuriken Master and Fan of Knives are both nerfed from jTO. From jTO wiki, SM formula is (DA + AP) * 33 - 1 and FK formula is (DA + AP) * 40. eTO has AP/10 in these formulas specifically to nerf the damage: while the wiki does not have the FK formula listed, it does have the SM formula, and personal testing I've done has proven that that formula and FK formula with AP/10 are both accurate. I can provide screenshots later if you'd like.

Given that context, there is no way that Chain Throw will have AP * 10 when it comes to eTO simply because they've already underpowered both shuriken skills for this game and have set a precedent. With that being said, even in a worst case scenario where the formula is nerfed to (DA * 16 + AP/10) * 4.2 (as opposed to a mid-case scenario where the nerf is only applied once, giving us (DA * 16 + AP) * 4.2), the damage is still quite good and outperforms both Landmine and EE.
I searched jWiki, and it seems that for all shuriken in general the AP is divided by 10. When they mean "shuriken actual dmg" they mean Shuriken AP/10. Thats just true for all cases. So I don't think foxes in jTO has higher dmg compare to eTO.

Here is the note in reference to where I am coming from:
"実質暗器攻撃力(実質暗攻)はアイテムによって異なるので、こちらを参照。
実質暗記攻撃力=暗記攻撃力10"

Actual Shuriken DMG varies from the actual item. The actual dmg is shuriken's AP/10

With that said, the formula for Chain throw(shuriken rush) will apply and the x10 will cancel out the /10 making the shuriken dealing actual AP.
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Ewww, that means precise pitch/brave throw is a bad skill in both versions since the AP buff is /10 in both, and it doesn't affect Chain Throw

I'm still not holding out hope for the formula to make it here unscathed :/

Thanks for the clarification though! It clears up a lot of doubts that I had.

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i knew that buffalo skill doesnt hit twice.......
 
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Wow, the Buffalo's Earth Skill hits really hard though it only hits once.
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Ewww, that means precise pitch/brave throw is a bad skill in both versions since the AP buff is /10 in both, and it doesn't affect Chain Throw

I'm still not holding out hope for the formula to make it here unscathed :/

Thanks for the clarification though! It clears up a lot of doubts that I had.
I guess that needs to be fixed because, for now at least precise pitch doesn't add any power to the new skill but that's pretty weird since precise pitch IS a pre-requisite for the new skill o.o
 
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I guess that needs to be fixed because, for now at least precise pitch doesn't add any power to the new skill but that's pretty weird since precise pitch IS a pre-requisite for the new skill o.o
they might fix it later XD


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so the new pet themes are elements? i wonder what will be next, gemstones? theses skills all look great, but there is no lion skill that REALLY catches my attention
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so the new pet themes are elements? i wonder what will be next, gemstones? theses skills all look great, but there is no lion skill that REALLY catches my attention
The new pet theme is actually spirits.
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they are the new upcoming 170 set.


Oh and here is the tenter shield.


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Any info if those spirit pets give any elemental attr?

Could they be comped for more attr too *-*?
 
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Trickster Online Revolution - kTO This thread Refback 02-08-2009 09:53 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - kTO This thread Refback 02-08-2009 08:07 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Tombeth set? This thread Refback 02-08-2009 05:30 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Tombeth set? This thread Refback 02-08-2009 04:41 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - kTO This thread Refback 02-08-2009 02:48 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Phoenix Rising (Self Damage?) Post #0 Refback 02-07-2009 05:28 PM
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Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-27-2009 04:44 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-27-2009 05:12 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Re: new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-26-2009 07:52 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-23-2009 04:24 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-23-2009 03:56 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-23-2009 09:15 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-23-2009 08:58 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-23-2009 06:51 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-22-2009 09:50 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-22-2009 08:13 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-22-2009 07:12 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-22-2009 05:52 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-22-2009 04:22 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Best Elements? Post #0 Refback 01-22-2009 02:34 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-22-2009 09:44 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-22-2009 07:35 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-22-2009 07:29 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-22-2009 07:16 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - new absolutly unique set This thread Refback 01-22-2009 07:16 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Elec/water Sheep going Witch Post #0 Refback 01-11-2009 06:18 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Re: Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 01-08-2009 04:22 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 01-04-2009 12:58 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Re: Elec/water Sheep going Witch Post #0 Refback 01-02-2009 09:16 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Best Elements? Post #0 Refback 01-01-2009 08:13 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - looks like we may get snow hill revo soon + exp boosts on previous quests This thread Refback 01-01-2009 05:39 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - looks like we may get snow hill revo soon + exp boosts on previous quests This thread Refback 01-01-2009 05:54 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-30-2008 02:22 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - looks like we may get snow hill revo soon + exp boosts on previous quests This thread Refback 12-28-2008 03:30 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - looks like we may get snow hill revo soon + exp boosts on previous quests This thread Refback 12-28-2008 12:48 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - looks like we may get snow hill revo soon + exp boosts on previous quests This thread Refback 12-28-2008 09:06 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - looks like we may get snow hill revo soon + exp boosts on previous quests This thread Refback 12-28-2008 08:51 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-24-2008 08:25 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-18-2008 02:12 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Re: Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-17-2008 07:06 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-07-2008 03:37 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-06-2008 03:18 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-04-2008 06:44 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Double the trouble? This thread Refback 12-04-2008 01:16 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-03-2008 05:47 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-03-2008 12:11 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-03-2008 11:54 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-03-2008 10:57 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-03-2008 10:43 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-03-2008 09:46 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-03-2008 09:34 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Double the trouble? This thread Refback 11-01-2008 11:26 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Any new 3rd job skills? This thread Refback 10-30-2008 03:12 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Any new 3rd job skills? This thread Refback 10-29-2008 08:35 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Any new 3rd job skills? This thread Refback 10-28-2008 06:36 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - 3rd Job Priest? Post #0 Refback 10-24-2008 10:17 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Double the trouble? This thread Refback 10-20-2008 05:30 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Double the trouble? This thread Refback 10-17-2008 06:17 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Double the trouble? This thread Refback 10-14-2008 10:23 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Double the trouble? This thread Refback 10-14-2008 10:11 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Double the trouble? This thread Refback 10-14-2008 08:01 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Double the trouble? This thread Refback 10-14-2008 07:54 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - 3rd Job Priest? Post #0 Refback 10-09-2008 12:48 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - User Information. Post #0 Refback 09-28-2008 08:27 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - User Information. Post #0 Refback 09-28-2008 08:25 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Phoenix Rising (Self Damage?) Post #0 Refback 09-23-2008 10:38 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - 3rd Job Priest? Post #0 Refback 09-16-2008 11:10 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - 3rd Job Priest? Post #0 Refback 09-15-2008 11:51 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - 3rd Job Priest? Post #0 Refback 09-14-2008 01:28 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Re: New Skills Post #0 Refback 09-12-2008 02:44 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Elec/water Sheep going Witch Post #0 Refback 09-12-2008 09:31 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - 3rd Job Priest? Post #0 Refback 09-11-2008 08:43 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - 3rd Job Priest? Post #0 Refback 09-11-2008 06:02 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - 3rd Job Priest? Post #0 Refback 09-11-2008 05:54 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Elec/water Sheep going Witch Post #0 Refback 09-06-2008 01:12 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Best Elements? Post #0 Refback 08-22-2008 09:36 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - E-Marriage? This thread Refback 08-14-2008 09:15 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Lightning, Fire, Dark Witch Post #0 Refback 08-06-2008 02:56 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Phoenix Rising (Self Damage?) Post #0 Refback 08-06-2008 12:41 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Lightning, Fire, Dark Witch Post #0 Refback 08-06-2008 09:53 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Phoenix Rising (Self Damage?) Post #0 Refback 08-06-2008 09:11 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - E-Marriage? This thread Refback 07-02-2008 09:22 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - E-Marriage? This thread Refback 07-01-2008 04:30 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - E-Marriage? This thread Refback 07-01-2008 07:44 AM

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