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The debuff fields are great for bossing if you use them properly. With my wind/earth sheep I find if I use rust - whirlwind - gnome's domain, then spam winblade - raging storm - razor gale with sylph's blessing active, tenter and the count die so fast they rarely get to use banish. I imagine raion's space + electroshock + scorching earth on fire/electric sheep would work just as well. Odinea's impelling rage is a big problem though. But if you get a guardian to skunk them then even that isn't a problem.

That said, pure sheep can't get SoH for defence (which is fine by me, I think it's one of the cheapest skills out there...), and their 3rd job attack spells aren't up to much. What would be good is if they made skills combining 2 elements together, like a sandstorm for wind/earth, maelstrom for wind/water, tempest for water/elec, volcano for earth/fire and...something for fire/elec.

If all the 3rd classes get new skills it might actually promote different skill trees a bit more rather than trying to get everything good like a lot of people seem to do now. It would also help if some of the existing skills were made more useable (e.g. butt plate, bottulism cloud, summon card soldier).
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The debuff fields are great for bossing if you use them properly. With my wind/earth sheep I find if I use rust - whirlwind - gnome's domain, then spam winblade - raging storm - razor gale with sylph's blessing active, tenter and the count die so fast they rarely get to use banish. I imagine raion's space + electroshock + scorching earth on fire/electric sheep would work just as well. Odinea's impelling rage is a big problem though. But if you get a guardian to skunk them then even that isn't a problem.

That said, pure sheep can't get SoH for defence (which is fine by me, I think it's one of the cheapest skills out there...), and their 3rd job attack spells aren't up to much. What would be good is if they made skills combining 2 elements together, like a sandstorm for wind/earth, maelstrom for wind/water, tempest for water/elec, volcano for earth/fire and...something for fire/elec.

If all the 3rd classes get new skills it might actually promote different skill trees a bit more rather than trying to get everything good like a lot of people seem to do now. It would also help if some of the existing skills were made more useable (e.g. butt plate, bottulism cloud, summon card soldier).
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Light mages bore me to tears since SoH is basically Trickster on super EZ mode. Props to any light mages that don't have/use SoH, I know Anchors was one. There's a reason a lot of the lv. 400s are light mages. >_>;

I just wish Banish wouldn't teleport you out if your pet was still in the range of the skill when the time runs out. It's happened to me many times. :< I managed to escape, but my pet... not so much lol.
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and Gladiators seem to be....uh.....I guess you know where I AM GOING WITH THIS ONE...lol
 
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SoH is a crutch, but hardly necessary if you gear up properly for wherever you're going. If you rely on it too much, will you know how to do anything without it? ;o

The soul master fields are very nice. Their efficacy is however actually based on MA so my melee soul master idea isn't working out so great (yet), but this is great "news" for anyone using a MA soul master...

I saw Butt Plate mentioned above... If only the devs would allow for simultaneous use of chuck items and bullets - then my DA gunner lion could be hax. ;3 Wouldn't have to choose between other gun skills and SM. As it is, however, butt plate's actually comparable to SS; only problems are the windup (slightly longer than SS) and the cooldown (also slightly longer than SS, making alternating for high phys DPS difficult without throwing other skills into the cycle, but there are no other DA-based gun skills). However, throwing in decent AC for both SS accuracy and normal gun skills, cycling between PS, SS, and BP actually lets you mow through mobs with fair ease and speed.
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I just wish Banish wouldn't teleport you out if your pet was still in the range of the skill when the time runs out. It's happened to me many times. :< I managed to escape, but my pet... not so much lol.
Are you sure it is like this? I am sure that my pet was inside the banish field and I didn't get teleported.
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They seriously should just take out Banish! Know what it will be like when the boss kills you, you use a flower of revival only to end up wasting it by being banished later!
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Soul Masters are Strong if you have enough HP/DP/HV. Their Debuff skills are amazing (at least i think that) because is like using shard of glacier to a monster and the electric spells cause more damage. The difference there is a Soul Master can make strong any element, wind is hax with Gnome's Domain.
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I would replace the DP with LK for blessing usage. :3
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2. Don Danihen Set (Gacha)





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Are you sure it is like this? I am sure that my pet was inside the banish field and I didn't get teleported.
Well, it's always been that way for me. Maybe it's different for other pets? I doubt it but not really sure. ^_^;
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The Mask, Hat and Cape of the Butler Set have potential, as well as the Hat from the Danihen Set.

The rest of the items, including both pets, aren't very good looking. Don's bobble-head is pretty amusing though c:
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You failed to mention that you do not PvP/GvG. 8D
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What? We have PvP/GvG in this game?!
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Only 8 here, any idea what the 9th item is?

And lol is that a disguise kit in the Apprentice Butler boxes?
 
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I think that I'd personally more describe SoH as a tool that will become a crutch if you overuse/abuse it. There have been plenty of times where even with Light Shield I found myself getting smashed quite hard and fast by things. I almost never use it now outside of dealing with the high level shadow mobs (Gentle Sting, anything in Harkon Protector, etc), higher level guard breaking mobs, or being lazy, but I'd definitely say that it was fairly necessary on certain things at some point in time. Mostly when things could 1 hit me with Light Shield on while I spent ages casting.

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That aside, the butler shield really reminds me of the Blood Shield, just shaped differently. Gotta say though, I'm glad none of it enthralls me, that's just less temptation to bother with money related aspects of the game beyond what I already have.
 
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Gimme please. They always releases cute pets in lolboxes that it's nearly hard to get them all. x.x
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And lol is that a disguise kit in the Apprentice Butler boxes?
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