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I think what will happen is that there will be a limited number of spawns per wave, and of course a limited number of waves, but if you kill any particular wave fast enough you would have time to regen and recast buffs, at least that's how a lot of games that add similar features to this run things. Otherwise we'd probably all get overrun and killed constantly unless everyone was above a certain lvl and the majority of the group could aoe.
 
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Unless it's a raid of Chaos Tower Monsters, and Abyss Monsters.

I don't think anybody would actually lose.
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I would have to agree with Kowiz.
Not many of the monsters are hard to kill. Even bosses can become easy to kill with the right tactics.


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it is a group event. Probably can accept up to 100 players? Not really sure since the event is still in the testing stage. So everything can still change.

They are testing the following at the moment with 100 players.
1 Can they have that many players on at certain hours?
2 Can they have that many players using skill at the same time?
3 Can they have that many player and guardian using skill at the same time?
4 Can they have that many player using Mics and ports at the same time?
5 Will it cause an error if the players went for a fortune before entering?
6 Will it have an issue with equipments?
7 Can Players accept the new quests?
8 Balance issues...

So yea, they will probably get the final draft iron out by the end of Nov. and should hear about it shortly in the next 3 patches.
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I'm not saying they will necessarily be hard to kill, although if there aren't some level restrictions or separate areas for certain level ranges they might get kill by something they can't kill yet. What I was trying to say is that regardless if you can ohko a mob, if you get swarmed, you can still be taken down, and thus out of that round/event/session, whatever we'll end of calling it.
 
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I would assume the spawn would be about the same amount that of a boss.
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I actually disagree Corwin, the HV/LK system with dodging in this game is pretty hax and not to mention bodyguard/guard/SoH/guerellia and more defensive skills. Blessings/Physical Shields/Mana Reflector will also help out with killing mobs quickly so theres no excuse for players to be unable to kill huge mobs anymore. I would agree if you said this last year and myhax wasn't so hax and people couldn't beat a mob in pvp, but its different now so...

Edit: Also, theres Telsa, and other sheep elemental skills that last long durations. The aoe that dragons have that traps people/monsters which also stalls them. mass skunk pouching, etc etc, yea you get it
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I bet they'll have all kind of stunning skills like Faint and Electroshock. Add Guard Break and it will be really funny
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yes, but going by the initial information available on this, they are only testing 100 people in a round at a time, which means that it might have a limited number of slots open each round, although obviously that is not definitive yet. And just because 100 people can get in, they all won't necessarily have myhax on or have aoe capabilities. And unless there are certain lvl limits, there is the possibility of getting 99 lvl 30 players who all get killed in the first minute and 1 lvl 150+ player who may not have an aoe or at least an effective one, and whether it is one player or 100, it can be a war of attrition. If they hit hard enough, you might run out of pots, if the stronger players are taken out first, you lose your front line. Yes I will admit that it's more likely that lvl 200+ characters, boss sets, and myhax will win the day, but it's not guaranteed. They will want to build a certain element of challenge into this feature since they are providing special items as a reward.
 
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yes, but going by the initial information available on this, they are only testing 100 people in a round at a time, which means that it might have a limited number of slots open each round, although obviously that is not definitive yet. And just because 100 people can get in, they all won't necessarily have myhax on or have aoe capabilities. And unless there are certain lvl limits, there is the possibility of getting 99 lvl 30 players who all get killed in the first minute and 1 lvl 150+ player who may not have an aoe or at least an effective one, and whether it is one player or 100, it can be a war of attrition. If they hit hard enough, you might run out of pots, if the stronger players are taken out first, you lose your front line. Yes I will admit that it's more likely that lvl 200+ characters, boss sets, and myhax will win the day, but it's not guaranteed. They will want to build a certain element of challenge into this feature since they are providing special items as a reward.
Oh I see what you're saying, but I still doubt it'll be too hard. I mean, I just don't find it logical to make mass spawning monsters hard to kill in the first place (as in taking out big hits and having freeze skills etc). In the end, if its too hard, no one would try so, yea..
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Who cares if the equipment sucks. As long as it looks nice for fusion [unless that is disabled for these gears].
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Well yeah I agree that they can't make it too hard, you're right, no one would want to bother, and the rewards are all probably scaled for players between 100-225 which of course means other than the initial excitement about a new feature, anyone with a character higher than that probably won't get much out of it.

And let's face it, even if the gear is nice, it's all probably still going to be downgrades for boss set and myhax users which means that hopefully the rewards will be tradeable so we can sell them off to others who didn't have as much luck surviving the gauntlet.

But I also agree with Chris, I think we're going to see a lot of stun type and movement impairing abilities, sort of like going into Mermaid Dungeon 2 and getting held in place by Okto's Electroshock, 3 of those guys makes it a little hard to do anything.

And of course, they might all be like someone else I believe said, the Requiem/Punisher type mobs from the Towers.
 
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hopefully it wont be like that time when they released monsters in the cities on pearl and we werent able to use any of our skills
 
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hopefully it wont be like that time when they released monsters in the cities on pearl and we werent able to use any of our skills
The only reason that happens is because Megalopolis is one of the skill disabled maps.
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hopefully it wont be like that time when they released monsters in the cities on pearl and we werent able to use any of our skills
Thats cause mega is already a skill disabled area, in other words, if it was in a monster map you could probably use skills


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Ouch, I didn't even think of that possibility. That could add even more potential for some of us getting stomped all over. But realistically, I don't think they'd do that to us. I am kind of curious that, if the mobs themselves will drop items, and what the items are that are available at the end of a winning round. Also will all 50 items be available to choose from at the end of a winning round, will it be random, or will it be based on an as of yet unknown set of requirements like no one dying, not using potions, all mobs dead within a certain time limit or some such nonsense. These requirements could make it both more interesting and really annoying.
 
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You guys gotta stop making things up, just go with the info we have.

I doubt it'll be too hard, you need the shadow eye skill which means you're around level 180. At level 180, you would most likely have a strong mob skill. Then you have mages with Oath, Cure, Medi that can heal you if its ever needed. With Sense/ xx4x types, you will probably have all the mp pots/ bullets/ cards you need. With the addition of Guardians, it'll probably be pretty easy, its just the amount of effort you make.

I think Mages might be the most useful, they have good mob skills and can heal.
 
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I doubt it'll be too hard, you need the shadow eye skill which means you're around level 180. At level 180, you would most likely have a strong mob skill. Then you have mages with Oath, Cure, Medi that can heal you if its ever needed. With Sense/ xx4x types, you will probably have all the mp pots/ bullets/ cards you need. With the addition of Guardians, it'll probably be pretty easy, its just the amount of effort you make.

I think Mages might be the most useful, they have good mob skills and can heal.
what about lions foxes etc with low defenses?
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We are using the info we have currently, we're just hypothesizing on how things might interact, it's no fun to just talk over a few minimal facts, so we choose to make educated guesses based on previous content and other games as to how things are going to play out, nothing wrong with that. Who knows, we might be right.
 
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Foxes have FoK + Hide and can plant land mines? They could stay close to Mages or get Bodyguard from Charms.
Lions.. Some Lions with good Charm stats can be pretty good in Pvp, and they can use Shooting Spree/ Berserk .

I think with this mini-game, people will have to choose survivability over damage. The only problem is how monsters spawn; will they spawn in random places or will they spawn in specific areas then rush to the harkon?
 

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Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-24-2008 08:25 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-18-2008 02:12 AM
Trickster Online Revolution - Re: Bunny Box Sword? This thread Refback 12-17-2008 07:06 PM
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Trickster Online Revolution - 3rd Job Priest? Post #0 Refback 09-11-2008 08:43 PM
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Trickster Online Revolution - Elec/water Sheep going Witch Post #0 Refback 09-06-2008 01:12 PM
Trickster Online Revolution - Best Elements? Post #0 Refback 08-22-2008 09:36 PM
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