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Well if you will blame people for complaining about SGI then we can also blame you for not complaining and instead patting them on the back. Maybe because of the pats you gave, they didn't even bother fixing their glitches and hearing us out with regards to GG which in turn made the people who were spending quit and thus the game shuts down. If you will say people complained too much then sir, maybe you didn't complain enough.
 
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No, no. I think we misunderstood each other.

I said I do not think the playerbase's complaining was a major cause of the shutdown (but I do not think that it didn't at least play a minor role). I am not blaming them neither for this fault.

What I said, was that I am bitter because we all know that this day would come. However, we who enjoyed the game couldn't even enjoy it in peace. The same complaints are repeated over and over, but SGi saw things differently. So when complaints go unheard, they turn into rants, or at least criticisms towards those players who actually didn't mind it at all. We, who tried to at least make the best of it, get insulted (I can really name names, but I should not) for playing/liking the game. It wouldn't be so bad if it were isolated cases. But they come in droves, constantly.

Those who left the game, had their peace when they quit. We didn't have that. Those final moments where we could enjoy ourselves, we didn't even have that.

That's why I'm bitter. Not to those who got banned, they have their reasons. Not to those who complained legitimately, they had their reason.

Those who "quit" then came back just to criticize, those who complained about MS over and over and over even if they have the option to not buy/ignore (which is different form complaining about lack of content), those who keep harassing the players who enjoy the game. Those who are not thankful when SGi actually DOES something good (Tapasco Key Quests, Chaos Tower Equipments, etc...) Those are whom I am very bitter towards. And there are a lot.

If these do not apply to you, then I apologize if you think it did.
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I got what you're saying now guess that's fair.
 
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Lol I forgot this game existed but I heard the qquing on another game forum so i decided to check it out one last time. the player base is like 0 compared to a few years ago. I can see why they are shutting down...no surprise...but too bad it is happening, this was my first MMO. 2006 was a good time, 2007 even better. 2008 and onwards, i'm surprised it lasted that long.

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tori if you want people to take you seriously, you need to just stop contradicting yourself. You say "i'm not saying you guys caused this closure" but every time you post you say how bitter you are toward people and how they didn't care enough and how they've ruined something for you (generally speaking), and all it is is blame.

I've been poking around both here and over at sgi, and i don't really see how you can sit there pointing fingers at the community specifically when from what i've been reading in multiple threads over the last few months, the problems with gameguard caused many issues that inevitably led the game to its final leg. I don't know what the player population of the game was prior to gg but a lot of posts are saying the population declined rather drastically afterward, so i can only imagine how that turned out. You say you're not blaming us, but you still imply it and it just kind of makes me... Put my chin on my hands and quirk a brow at you.
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No, no. I think we misunderstood each other.

I said I do not think the playerbase's complaining was a major cause of the shutdown (but I do not think that it didn't at least play a minor role). I am not blaming them neither for this fault.

What I said, was that I am bitter because we all know that this day would come. However, we who enjoyed the game couldn't even enjoy it in peace. The same complaints are repeated over and over, but SGi saw things differently. So when complaints go unheard, they turn into rants, or at least criticisms towards those players who actually didn't mind it at all. We, who tried to at least make the best of it, get insulted (I can really name names, but I should not) for playing/liking the game. It wouldn't be so bad if it were isolated cases. But they come in droves, constantly.

Those who left the game, had their peace when they quit. We didn't have that. Those final moments where we could enjoy ourselves, we didn't even have that.

That's why I'm bitter. Not to those who got banned, they have their reasons. Not to those who complained legitimately, they had their reason.

Those who "quit" then came back just to criticize, those who complained about MS over and over and over even if they have the option to not buy/ignore (which is different form complaining about lack of content), those who keep harassing the players who enjoy the game. Those who are not thankful when SGi actually DOES something good (Tapasco Key Quests, Chaos Tower Equipments, etc...) Those are whom I am very bitter towards. And there are a lot.

If these do not apply to you, then I apologize if you think it did.

ohhh stop whining~ man-up
we all are sad and TO sometime was just about MS - we all enjoyed it in a different ways and saying the players who complained about stuff caused TO being closing is just pure crap
they didn't care about our thought, even back then when they kept giving us lame poppuri raweds every year and now when they are closing..
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ohhh stop whining~ man-up
we all are sad and TO sometime was just about MS - we all enjoyed it in a different ways and saying the players who complained about stuff caused TO being closing is just pure crap
they didn't care about our thought, even back then when they kept giving us lame poppuri raweds every year and now when they are closing..
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I said I do not think the playerbase's complaining was a major cause of the shutdown (but I do not think that it didn't at least play a minor role). I am not blaming them neither for this fault.

Oh, and what was the reason again why we never got awesome Poppuri rewards anymore?
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Those who left the game, had their peace when they quit. We didn't have that. Those final moments where we could enjoy ourselves, we didn't even have that.
Sorry, Taro, but you're choosing not to have your "peace" when you give into those you are bitter towards. We had our peace when we left because we chose to either ignore or to laugh shit off.

You still have one month left. If you want peace, then go get it while you can and enjoy it.
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Sorry, Taro, but you're choosing not to have your "peace" when you give into those you are bitter towards. We had our peace when we left because we chose to either ignore or to laugh shit off.

You still have one month left. If you want peace, then go get it while you can and enjoy it.

Taking the high road has its limits you know. I haven't really lashed out or ranted against anything in a long while. A few snide remarks in humor maybe, but that was me trying to ignore or laugh it off. People have their own opinions, and for whatever crass reason, they choose to blurt it out like a drunk. I have the game at least to retreat to then, but now...

Yes, the end is near, and yes we only have one month left to enjoy what we have, which we shall do. But "Quitters" who are returning to this game/forums just to laugh at the game/us isn't helping. Those guys can't even let us have this one month in peace.

If you quit, as in really quit the game, I respect and appreciate that. You have my thanks for giving us our peace. Though looking at the past and present of this forums, you are few and far in between.
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If you quit, as in really quit the game
The funny thing is, I actually never made the conscious decision to quit.

Remember way back when when those compound stones for pets released in the cash shop and they were glitched to where they could be used on equipment? People were raving about them, because they had better ranges than the equipment stones, and were cheaper. I remember buying a set to test on an Azhi vest I had, but I ended up getting the same subpar results I get with regular stones anyway, so I left it alone after that (besides the fact it was a glitch, blah blah). I wasn't very active around that time anymore but still logged on periodically to goof off. When the announcement came that equipment comped with the glitched stones would be deleted, I did log on and Nate the vest to save it.

And then I just... never logged back on again after that. That was literally the last time I was on the game.

I don't really understand why I did what I did. When I saved the vest, I had intended to still log on from time to time, but it never happened, and I gradually lost interest in it. /shrug
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The funny thing is, I actually never made the conscious decision to quit.

Remember way back when when those compound stones for pets released in the cash shop and they were glitched to where they could be used on equipment? People were raving about them, because they had better ranges than the equipment stones, and were cheaper. I remember buying a set to test on an Azhi vest I had, but I ended up getting the same subpar results I get with regular stones anyway, so I left it alone after that (besides the fact it was a glitch, blah blah). I wasn't very active around that time anymore but still logged on periodically to goof off. When the announcement came that equipment comped with the glitched stones would be deleted, I did log on and Nate the vest to save it.

And then I just... never logged back on again after that. That was literally the last time I was on the game.

I don't really understand why I did what I did. When I saved the vest, I had intended to still log on from time to time, but it never happened, and I gradually lost interest in it. /shrug
And you actually did us a favor (no offense). I mean, though you did not officially quit, and knowing how you feel about the distributor/game, you never came back for the sole purpose of trolling/laughing. You moved on, and left us to our fun. It was very mature (and not making a goodbye thread/making a scene/whatevs, that's twice as mature). I wish everyone was like that.
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And you actually did us a favor (no offense). I mean, though you did not officially quit, and knowing how you feel about the distributor/game, you never came back for the sole purpose of trolling/laughing. You moved on, and left us to our fun. It was very mature (and not making a goodbye thread/making a scene/whatevs, that's twice as mature). I wish everyone was like that.
Well, if I may be blunt here, I never cared for the idea of "quit threads" in the first place because they're kind of attention *****-y and many people here are infamous for "quitting" and then returning later on anyway.

People lose interest in games all the time for a multitude of reasons. Quitting games is normal. Just quit and be done with it, don't make it into some huge deal.
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Wow this game has been open for as long as I can remember. Can't actually believe it's happening but I kind of figured it would happen eventually. Lots of games go through these kind of decisions.

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People lose interest in games all the time for a multitude of reasons. Quitting games is normal. Just quit and be done with it, don't make it into some huge deal.
Thank you for saying that. I've always thought that and I found it utterly pointless. You're leaving a game? Congratulations. Go tell your friends in your own Guild section and not the whole Forum to see in a game section. If they're truly your friend, they would see the thread in a less visible area and wish you well.
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