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05-15-2010   #301 (permalink)
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Was doing some research on terran tech trees when an idea came up.

Is it a plausible move to actually steal both his gases early game so he can't tech up for marauders/reapers? It pretty much cuts up his advantage against toss, but feels a bit costly since cybernetics and your own gas comes a bit slower too.
Usually scouting workers come after I've taken my first gas... If you scout early enough to steal both gases, everything the protoss does after will be slow so the terran has two options :

1. Make marines and kill you. (marines actually have more dps/cost than marauders)
2. Expand easily and out macro you.

A good terran will scout and do one of these things. To even stand a chance at a double gas steal it would have to be a 2-player map like steppes of war or blistering sands..
 
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I wouldn't fall for the gas steal as Terran either. I do opt to grab the first gas early on quite often, right after I drop the barracks in preparation for the Tech Lab.

Protoss gas steals are quite damaging because Assimilators have 450/450 health and shields. It can tank quite a lot. Yeah, the payoff is cutting your own economy a bit in order to cut his.

If anything, the tradeoff is equal and nothing changes, except each player has more minerals before they can get their other gas.

I was Silver in 2v2 Random and I got demoted to Bronze for some reason. Oh well. Bronze level has been extremely weird though. I've ended up going against 2v2 arranged teams in Platinum.
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My Client refuses to patch and just goes straight into the game,in which I can't play because its an invalid version.Help please?
what patch did it end on?
I may be able to get you some manual patches
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Was doing some research on terran tech trees when an idea came up.

Is it a plausible move to actually steal both his gases early game so he can't tech up for marauders/reapers? It pretty much cuts up his advantage against toss, but feels a bit costly since cybernetics and your own gas comes a bit slower too.
Hmm...

Actually, it woudl be a pretty good tactic. For only 150 minerals, you're going to be slowing down the terran a LOT. Not to mention that it's reaper safe, and the terran will have to build marines to destroy the assimilators. If they pump marines, your zealots can just rip them apart, and you don't have to worry about any marauders.

The only draw back I can see to this is that your gateway will be a little bit late, and you'll be around 2 probes behind the terran player. But... it's still really not a bad idea.
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what patch did it end on?
I may be able to get you some manual patches
it was on 10 until this happened,and I sorta goofed it up by re-installing and now its at the first patch
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All you do is buy yourself a little time, while compromising your own ability to tech up.

You could argue that you only go for zealots, in which the idea is somewhat more plausible

Still.. the idea is crazy enough to possibly work, so give it a try.
Someone did it against me and ended up winning in the end because I accidentally left a little space when I built my barracks + supply depots...
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It's actually a pretty good tactic.

If I was the terran player, I for one would hate all protoss players who did that
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They put me in gold league for 1v1 QQ.


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And the phoenixes were doing pretty damn well too.
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I want TLO to win but I like NoNy too...Idra is just the typical rage kiddy :U
 
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You're allowed to rage if you're good. K.

I really, really think TLO is awesome. /fangirl.
 
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I liked NonY's creative phoenix build though. It would have ended really well if he killed the den instead.
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god. i really hate facing fixed team of platinums when i'm at silver league with another player. this is to fffffing broken
 
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@Noperative - What is this Phoenix build you speak of?

@Tori - >Implying 2v2 is any sort of fair/balanced.
 
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@Noperative - What is this Phoenix build you speak of?


Made me shit bricks. Mind you this was before phoenixes got the move attack buff.
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