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09-17-2009   #21 (permalink)
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I think it is still, haveta check my dainn
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It's melee, that's why you can counter it.
doesn't mean a thing...
lullaby by kali is curse element and can be countered
krieg's skills are fire/ground/wind and still can be countered

but sieg's voke is no element
thundersound is ground/land <--been so since forever

only the npc resist armors are removed... i have no idea y they exist anymore since they're useless.. AWD is so cheap and beats the stats easily
 
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The Fighter/Tactician sets should have kept the resistances. It would add more variety to using equips in PvP. The PvP sets would be low def, high resistance vs the high def, no resistance of bonus equips. Right now the only attribute that matters in equips for PvP is str and dmg...
 
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The Fighter/Tactician sets should have kept the resistances. It would add more variety to using equips in PvP. The PvP sets would be low def, high resistance vs the high def, no resistance of bonus equips. Right now the only attribute that matters in equips for PvP is str and dmg...
I disagree. I have been, am, and always will be an INT *****. :3
 
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Actually it's not so much str anymore except the obvious boost at 501+, but vit once again plays an important role in whether you win or not. Int too but really no one needs that except casters

And plz... dont max whirlpool.. how2waste points..
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And plz... dont max whirlpool.. how2waste points..
Personal opinion, mine is maxed and I love it.

I really hate when people say "O this skill does this and this and sucks so you should get this." That is so untrue, it really comes down to how you play, and what you prefer, and what you are good with.

Been playing long enough that I have had every skill on Sieg maxed at some point, I will still stand by my maxed Whirlpool. Why? Because I am good at timing, situating and using that skill and know what its flaws and weaknesses are and how to use and avoid them. To me, Whirlpool > Whirling.
 
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A lot of people that knows about this might leave Whirlpool at 1 for PvP.

It is pretty good damage in or used in ground combos when maxed though, somewhere around ~350 per hit when you use it on a Sieg that just got it (too lazy to check the level) on someone that is wearing full AWD.
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I have known about that for awhile, and it has no effect on me. I do not PvP.
 
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^Just because someone doesn't pvp doesn't mean they have a problem

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Personal opinion, mine is maxed and I love it.

I really hate when people say "O this skill does this and this and sucks so you should get this." That is so untrue, it really comes down to how you play, and what you prefer, and what you are good with.

Been playing long enough that I have had every skill on Sieg maxed at some point, I will still stand by my maxed Whirlpool. Why? Because I am good at timing, situating and using that skill and know what its flaws and weaknesses are and how to use and avoid them. To me, Whirlpool > Whirling.
Oh, I see. Yeah, in stage it would be an okay skill but I was speaking from a pvp perspective. The thing is, sure, maxed does good damage, but when are you really gonna get full hit whirlpool? Maybe with blow->whirlpool sword but you can do a lot of better stuff... like traditional nado dfist would probably do more damage. Since whirlpool hits straight in front and it's kind of slow, its not really that hard to avoid when your opponent uses it on the ground against you. And even if you use it mid-combo, theres still decay so lol.

TBH I got the skill, then resetted it because I really didn't like it. Did the same thing as >>A in combos imo but I only learned intermediate sieg combos haha
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