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Joy 08-02-2012 10:28 AM

Gunner Lion Help
 


Making a gunner lion.

1. What build should I use?

2. All points into AC correct?



This will be a bossing character too. I don't like
using lions for PvP. ;3;



+reppp

InfernalGuy 08-02-2012 10:46 AM

1. 1144 and nothing else
2. pure AC

Simple as that

Tardar 08-02-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfernalGuy (Post 1754020)
1. 1144 and nothing else

If you're going to get a Guardian and have access to a reasonable amount of MyShop and also are willing to put work into your Lion, 1144 is not the only build option.

I personally prefer 2143 because instead of wasting points in marginally useful Charm stats (DP is useless, HV becomes significantly less useful once you hit around 100, on top of it, you're supposed to run around anyways) just for some HP. Especially since HP can be easily made up from accessories and pets whereas we really need all the AC we can get since we have no %-buff.

InfernalGuy 08-02-2012 11:54 AM

Well there are many options, but 1144 is really easy to maintain, I have this kind of cyber hunter and was able to achieve haxx stats for my lvl with no MS at all (I had very good alti. spiritual set)

Tardar 08-02-2012 12:04 PM

If you use Altis you won't need MS at really, yes.

1144 is no cheaper to maintain than 2143, if anything it's a little more expensive since you lose out on AC that you need. 1.5k HP is so minimal and won't save you much at all, and DP/HV is a waste of an extra growth point in Charm.

InfernalGuy 08-02-2012 12:07 PM

I didn't said cheaper, I said easier

Tardar 08-02-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfernalGuy (Post 1754067)
I didn't said cheaper, I said easier

Still not easier.

Joy 08-02-2012 12:12 PM

Thanks to both of you guys.

Still deciding whether 1144 is better or 2143... I need the HP but I also need the AC & AP.

InfernalGuy 08-02-2012 12:14 PM

Why would you need AP? o.o

Even if not easier, it's not harder anyway

Tardar 08-02-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CookiesNCream (Post 1754073)
AP

No need for AP on a Lion other than Gun AP. 20 Gun AP = 1 AC in terms of damage.

Joy 08-02-2012 02:03 PM

Oh alright. Still debating whether I want a 2 or 1 in power. ;3; I'll have access to MS but I won't be spending a lot of time on the lion.

InfernalGuy 08-02-2012 02:05 PM

I still honestly think you should go with 1144, +30 HP and +4 DP every lvl is really good to have

Tardar 08-02-2012 02:06 PM

10k-15k HP, a Sprint, and a gun with 1k AP total will have you set for a good while. You won't be the most hax Lion, but you'll definitely do some decent damage.

@Infernal: 4 DP per level is worthless. DP on Lions in general is worthless since we have no shield anyways and hats typically have lower DP unless it's a unique or Alti. I can maybe see the 1 HV every four levels as useful, but HV hits a cap of usefulness.

Joy 08-02-2012 02:15 PM

Putting AC and HP aside do lions need a lot of LK too?

zemega 08-02-2012 02:28 PM

If you meant CT Bossing, you would need 400LK buffed.

Tardar 08-02-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CookiesNCream (Post 1754109)
Putting AC and HP aside do lions need a lot of LK too?

You need 400+ to do the floors beyond the big eye. I can do all other bosses up until then with like 135 LK and LK Breaker from my Guardian.

Joy 08-02-2012 03:51 PM

Ahhh is it easy to get LK with balanced AC?

Tardar 08-02-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CookiesNCream (Post 1754135)
Ahhh is it easy to get LK with balanced AC?

Yeah, it's not a problem. Don't forget you have a LK buff, or two if you're Cyber Hunter, to help you.

Joy 08-02-2012 04:38 PM

Cyber Hunter is the gunner right? I'm just planning to be a gunner/boss hunter. Leaning more towards 2143.

Queen 08-02-2012 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CookiesNCream (Post 1754148)
Cyber Hunter is the gunner right? I'm just planning to be a gunner/boss hunter. Leaning more towards 2143.

Scientist is pure, CH is hybrid. They both gun.

People used to go CH for debuffs, guardians take care of that now more or less. Scientist, if anything, will give you more in the long run. You won't get any new gun toys going CH outside of 2nd job skills.


Think Fox HL, that's a CH essentially.


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