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07-15-2012   #1 (permalink)
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I'm currently starting to get back into the game and was curious about my equips.. I'm reading a lot of things about altiverse / flashbat being reall good weapons for the lion. Currently i'm using a singha 150 set from long ago.. my ac total is 495, but my gun ap is rather low (306 base and 325 from lv 5). Back in the day, i thought AC increased your damage by a flat 20 points regardless of how much gun AP you have.. but i read in another thread that gun AP affects how much dmg your AC does? Well anyway, my question is if it is worth breaking the set effect of singha (27 AC, 720 mp, 1080 hp and 19 LK) for a flashbat/altiverse (i'm only lv 201..) gun? My gun has 40 AC and 27 LK already which i feel is kind of high for my lvl. Any advice would be appreciated, i'm a 1144 build with 17k hp/5k mp.
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Don't post on that topic, but that is the gun damage formula.

[(GunAP - 11) + 20(AC - 48) ] x M
Is the formula for Powershot and shotting spree, as you may be able to deduce from there, 20 gunAP is equivalent to 1 AC in terms of damage so if you have a gun with 1k Ap and 20 AC, you would be doing the equivalent of adding 70AC. This gun would have a similar effect to a gun with 400 AP and 50 AC.
The key to this is balance. A flashbat gun may not be fully capable of getting as much AC but it will easily (with a few refines) achieve some nice ap. Another advantage of the flashbat set is the potential extra DP on the helm. This may make a slightly noticable effect on your defenses and mean you may use a few (10% maybe) less HP pots.

The thread I have linked above has provided a good spreadsheet, use that to compare the many options you have and that should tell you if your skills will do more damage.

Given your Gun AP I'd either go for the flashbat set or level up 45 more times and good for a thorny rose set.


Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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Hello guys
I'm currently starting to get back into the game and was curious about my equips.. I'm reading a lot of things about altiverse / flashbat being reall good weapons for the lion. Currently i'm using a singha 150 set from long ago.. my ac total is 495, but my gun ap is rather low (306 base and 325 from lv 5). Back in the day, i thought AC increased your damage by a flat 20 points regardless of how much gun AP you have.. but i read in another thread that gun AP affects how much dmg your AC does? Well anyway, my question is if it is worth breaking the set effect of singha (27 AC, 720 mp, 1080 hp and 19 LK) for a flashbat/altiverse (i'm only lv 201..) gun? My gun has 40 AC and 27 LK already which i feel is kind of high for my lvl. Any advice would be appreciated, i'm a 1144 build with 17k hp/5k mp.
You are doing very well for your level and you don't need to migrate to an altiverse flashbat set atm. You can, but you won't gain a huge increase compared to changing at 245.

Once you hit that 245, you should should start looking for nicely statted 3s, altiverse thorny rose pieces because it will surely out power your 150 MS equips(helm & gun only).
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yes i saw a thorny rose w/ like 3k AP and 30ac/30lk.. my jaw dropped and i got really jelly
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My Thorny Rose gun has 1.2k++ base Gun Ap, at level 10, its 4k++ AP, and I got it the second day CT got out. So you should start your daily CT bosses now.
 
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:O i plan to! I've just been working my way up the tower (i'm at floor 24 i think)... but i'm delayed by my guardian hatching.. now it's just been dig dig dig dig
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