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10-21-2009   #21 (permalink)
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The bosses give no verbal clue before using Banish. if you're close enough to cast Shield Breaker on them they're able to physically attack you since Shield Breaker has a very poor range. It's impossible to run out of the Banish's range if you're caught in it while casting Shield Breaker if you have no sprint.

Basically when you use Shield Breaker on
Neutral monsters : Damage still increases
Gun weak monsters : Damage will greatly increase
Gun resist monsters : Damage will increase
Gun damage absorbing monsters : Null the absorption and you'll be able to deal damage with the gun. Although the damage dealt isn't as high as compared to other monsters under the Shield Breaker debuff.
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under the boss appears a "skill circle", like the one under u when u use a skill.

after this the boss uses the banish.



and yup, im right, not only gun resist decreases with shield breaker.

get a lion and a friend (ive sen this at pvp, a raccoon with meta dealing LOTS of dmg with wild nail after a lion sheld break some1) and test urself before talk wrong things.
 
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Just did a test with Gun Overdrive level 10.

Power shot was around 19k (No crit) [This is showing the damage comparison]

Regular shot with gun overdrive off was around 8k.
Regular shot with gun overdrive on was around 10k.
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Mastered would give it another 51%
So the damage would be around 14-15k with it mastered.

I own a level 7 pearl pistol.

Thus saying, you need a higher refined gun to do adequate damage.
(This applies to people such as myself who don't know how to use timed crits)

I used a master's authority to get rid of the skill in place of Sharp Sense.
I was severely disappointed.
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at high lvs (aka "after double shot") u ll almost dont need Gun AP, and ll need just AC.

the skills use just AC on its formula, so u dont need a good Gun AP if u ll use skills nonstop (and this is what a lot of lions do anyway).
 
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That's not completely true.
Gun AP is still essential. You obviously won't be using gun skills every time. There will be moments where you will use normal gun attacks.

I know of no lions that focus only on AC for their gun. They try to get high AC with decent AP refinement.
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at high lvs (aka "after double shot") u ll almost dont need Gun AP, and ll need just AC.

the skills use just AC on its formula, so u dont need a good Gun AP if u ll use skills nonstop (and this is what a lot of lions do anyway).
Totally not true (I'm a 183 scientist)
With higher gun AP it allows me to finish off some monsters that have that little bit of HP left.
For example I use a double shot then click right away for a regular shot.
This is almost instantanious, (So it seems like a triple shot) but still you do need high gun AP if you want to do adequate damage. (Well to my liking.)
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but if the monster lasts with a tiny HP... almost any gun AP is enough.

if not, i think that is much better use a power shot than sacrifice my AC for a possibility of sometimes i dont kill with 1 hit...
 
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plz can mmoji can u complete ur guide its the best one i have ever read i hope u complete it wit the best description to the updated patch with all details of skills required & essential to be a killing machine.

i my self am a lion (2143 lvl 120) i had left the game but returned after 2 yrs and wanted to continue to be the deadliest killing machine there is in the trickster online game so that i can kill monsters with much ease . i dont like PvP at all i dont want it but i want an orientation towards PvM. i hope ur guide is completed on time wit all details covering the Leveling guides for diff levels wit areas what to kill when to kill & what all areas & types of the quest have to be done.
 
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I'm still working on this guide, I have been busy, and I have no way of making graphics. It'll stay ugly for now. Around tomorrow-ish I should add some new sections.
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-Desert Beach Episode 0 added
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If you see any format problems, please PM me. I'm writing most of the guide on Word.
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Fixed a minor error in the TM section.
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I thought that I commented on this a few days back? Oh dear.

Anyway, this is a very useful guide to beginners and veterans alike. I never made a lion before; while I knew what stats and build I wanted to go for, the guide and thread both were a great guide with helping me decide what I wanted to do with my character.
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Major revamps coming! 8DDD
Gonna focus it into mainly a training guide, for actual training though mostly solo, for 60+ and keep the TM guide.
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I found a few [very] slight grammar/spelling mistakes in your guide. Do you want me to PM you the list or just post it here?

Sorry if I sound like an annoying nitpicker...
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You can PM or post here, either is fine. I'll fix it before I begin to transition to a training guide. I really just need all the screenshots for it and then it'll be ready. :U
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I'm currently following this guide but why get stone strike?
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You need Stone Strike to get Armor Destructor, which is a pre-requisite for Lucky7.
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Huge revamp. Rewrote some sections and created banners for stuffs.
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It's mobs are level 28x and just as easy to kill as beetles. It's a flat floor and James and I were grinding there one day (him on Cyber me on Diva) and he said it was faster than beetles for a lion.

It's also a floor you can teleport to a safe floor (43)

Edit: I can ohko here and not at beetles, and the monster levels at floor is higher. Do the math, broski. The only minor hitch is the Corrupt Orpeo with two health bars but they only manage to hit you back occassionally, I'll take being 2 feet away from repotting over beetles (harder to ohko, technically 3 maps away from nearest repot, lower level)

Floor 44 is the last floor I can ohko with Spree (except the Mr. Freaks, but at least they don't boom on you) on so the total AC I have should be fairly accurate as to how much you need to grind here.

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