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05-21-2009   #21 (permalink)
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"When the Shenlong was captured by OZ, it was reconstructed by the five scientists who originally developed the Gundams, to create the even more fearsome Altron Gundam... the Altron is unmatched as a close-range fighter. Its name is derived from its two dragon fangs - "er-to long" being Chinese for "two-headed dragon" - but its pilot prefers to call his Gundam "Nataku." "

Both nataku or altron refers to the same gundam. Its really what you like calling it.
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... as much as I love the Nu Gundam and HWS version, I'm not sure I'd wanna say byebye to my Zeta. I'd have to get two (LOL YEAH RIGHT) and use one for the sword mode and eventually HWS, because I don't want to get rid of a Zeta unless they add the Zeta Plus.

Do you think they'll add the Hi Nu Gundam at some point? It's purdeh.
 
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No, shenlong was redeveloped into Altron by OZ in the series. That is called Altron, nicknamed "nataku" by wufei only.

The gundam Nataku is officially named this by bandai on all model kits and figures. its the redesign by hajime katoki from endless waltz. The only reason they are mistakenly named one another is because people dont bother to name them correctly.

Altron is altron. Nataku is nataku.
Different gundams.
lol sorry to be so anal about it.
 
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No, shenlong was redeveloped into Altron by OZ in the series. That is called Altron, nicknamed "nataku" by wufei only.

The gundam Nataku is officially named this by bandai on all model kits and figures. its the redesign by hajime katoki from endless waltz. The only reason they are mistakenly named one another is because people dont bother to name them correctly.

Altron is altron. Nataku is nataku.
Different gundams.
lol sorry to be so anal about it.
um that is the official gundam site hosted by Bandai.

So if you insist, maybe you can tell Bandai to change their english website?

it reads as Nataku Gundam, but its only a nick name.
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um that is the official gundam site hosted by Bandai.
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it reads as Nataku Gundam,
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but its only a nick name.
Wait, hold on a second.


Yeah, thats what I thought.
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um that is the official gundam site hosted by Bandai.

So if you insist, maybe you can tell Bandai to change their english website?

it reads as Nataku Gundam, but its only a nick name.
A middle ground answer is that they're for the most part redesigns of the second generation of Gundam Wing mobile suits, they're essentially the same mobile suits aside from cosmetic differences and Katoki's changes (although debatable with Wing Gundam Zero Custom more than any other since the redesign is so extensive, though the series never explains how such modifications came to be between the end of Wing's TV arc and the Endless Waltz OVA). Basically, they just wanted Katoki involved and some holes in the plot resulted.

But to use that as an example, it's only called Wing Gundam Zero Custom on model kits/toys/etc., since in the canon universe it's essentially still Wing Gundam Zero. Just like Altron and Nataku are the same, regardless of model kit/toy terms used to avoid confusion, and Wufei's nickname for the suit. Just trying to help and share what I know. D:

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A middle ground answer is that they're for the most part redesigns of the second generation of Gundam Wing mobile suits, they're essentially the same mobile suits aside from cosmetic differences and Katoki's changes (although debatable with Wing Gundam Zero Custom more than any since the redesign is so extensive, though the series never explains how such modifications came to be between the end of Wing's TV arc and the Endless Waltz OVA). Basically, they just wanted Katoki involved and some holes in the plot resulted.

But to use that as an example, it's only called Wing Gundam Zero Custom on model kits/toys, since in the canon universe it's essentially still Wing Gundam Zero. Just like Altron and Nataku are the same, regardless of model kit terms used to avoid confusion, and Wufei's nickname for the suit. Just trying to help and share what I know. D:
Zero changed its wings, Heavyarms got twice as many weapons, Altron got better weapons and longer arms. I don't see how Zeros is anymore extensive than the others.
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Zero changed its wings, Heavyarms got twice as many weapons, Altron got better weapons and longer arms. I don't see how Zeros is anymore extensive than the others.
True enough, I just meant that it stands out so much more by comparison because the overall design of the suit had a lot of changes, not just the wings (check them shoulders alone). The addition of the wings also serving as atmospheric shielding is mostly what I meant though, more functions than just looks or some new boomsticks. But essentially your point is as valid as mine, some stuff was tacked on and otherwise it's mostly the same sec-gen suits from the TV series, even if they change the names or add more fancy words to sell merch with.
 
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Yeah but if my memory serves me correctly Wing and Wing Zero could do that already in their Bird and Neo-bird modes respectively.
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Yeah but if my memory serves me correctly Wing and Wing Zero could do that already in their Bird and Neo-bird modes respectively.
Lol, except when they did it actually worked instead of exploding on Heero later. It was moreso that they could enter modes actually made to enter the atmosphere rather than just survive falling in, like with the shields covering the cockpits. xD
 
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Ehh? Im surprised HWS Nu Gundam isn't hard to make! It's only the AR Zeta that's hard to make...

But it's exp bar it's making me.....
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Ehh? Im surprised HWS Nu Gundam isn't hard to make! It's only the AR Zeta that's hard to make...

But it's exp bar it's making me.....
You mean AS...Zeta (saber) isn't bad at all, and if you liked it, you just might need to make another one Orz

Beside, S rank Nu isn't all that easy too since the key unit is BWS o.o
 
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after seeing the new buster in action... it isn't that impressive =_=;
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after seeing the new buster in action... it isn't that impressive =_=;
Its a basically a better version Shiki with no need to aim a head ahead of your target, damage up, and a better special. That and the player(in the video you linked) wasn't that great, as its not that hard to hit with the aoe special at the ranges he missed at.
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Its a basically a better version Shiki with no need to aim a head ahead of your target, damage up, and a better special. That and the player(in the video you linked) wasn't that great, as its not that hard to hit with the aoe special at the ranges he missed at.
Maybe, but its the expert channel. So it happens
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