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11-26-2011   #101 (permalink)
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They are both W2. Both primary weapons.

Arios doesnt have infinite ammo for W3 you know....

also KD beams are important for support suits. They allow you to KD enemies attacking your teammates, or allow you to KD that annoying paper melting your rocks. Remember SUPPORT doesnt just mean attacking, it also includes defending. THEY ALLOW YOU TO KD PEOPLE YOUR TEAMMATES ARE MELEEING OR SHOOT AN 00R OUT OF SP.

And FAZZ has a longer range than Arios whcih immediately gives it an edge. Scissors are primarily meant for hunting papers anyway and Arios is horribly outranged by all the paper flashlights. FAZZ's missiles and KD beam both have longer range than beam rifles. And before you say move closer if you do that has a higher chance of putting in you in range of enemy rocks
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I'm assuming that the FAZZ user isn't a retard and looks before shooting .____. you know like how all KD beam suits should (unless they are R lock sniping from far away, which makes it inevitable)

and KDing someone your teammate is meleeing may not be the worst thing in the world, if you shoot them after the teammate has hit them 4 times and was about to hit them for the 5th times :3

and shooting 00R out of SP is something Arios can do to. (assuming you talking about beam SP)
 
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I'm assuming that the FAZZ user isn't a retard and looks before shooting .____. you know like how all KD beam suits should (unless they are R lock sniping from far away, which makes it inevitable)

and KDing someone your teammate is meleeing may not be the worst thing in the world, if you shoot them after the teammate has hit them 4 times and was about to hit them for the 5th times :3

and shooting 00R out of SP is something Arios can do to. (assuming you talking about beam SP)
your team mate may intend to spec for the 5th hit to save their own ass
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your team mate may intend to spec for the 5th hit to save their own ass
Or decides to kite them :<

IMO, KD beams should only be used when its from a far, saving your teammate from melee, or KD that one guy in a group of 2 so he can't do anything while your team mauls on the remaining guy.
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Exactly. KD is for support roles.
 
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We'll move Arios v FAZZ over to the S discussion.

So back onto this topic.

FAZZ sucks.

Agree/Disagree?

Oh and.

Arios sucks too.

Agree/Disagree?

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i dont think there was any question on this, just who sucked more.
 
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Wait.. FAZZ suck? You mad?
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It's certainly not anywhere near the top of my OMG MUST HAVE/KILL ON SIGHT scissor suits. Though saying it sucks is probably a bit strong.

I wouldn't go to the effort to mix it (had the choice between it and F91 for my first S rank, went with F91, scrapped my AS eZZ for hangar space so cant make anymore.) but if i get one from free events I'd certainly be happy (Chsal got FAZZ I got T3 from the last one =/ )
 
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I don't think suits can really suck. It really depends on how the players uses them. If the player sucks the suit sucks. I use certain A rank like Full Armor Gundam but i suck with him. Doesn't mean he sucks.
 
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I don't think suits can really suck. It really depends on how the players uses them. If the player sucks the suit sucks. I use certain A rank like Full Armor Gundam but i suck with him. Doesn't mean he sucks.
No F-A-G sucks. Pretty bad. If you suck with him, that's 2x the suck so it's even worse.

Player skill certainly is one of the factors, but it can't be denied that there are some suits that have a better weaponset (versatility or sheer damage output), better animation (faster melee animation, or smooth mca) or better stats when compared to other suits, which give players an edge over players of equal skill or at least help them survive better against players better than them.

Sad fact off the matter is: There are some suits that can still rape, or at the very least, still be pretty painful even if the player sucks. Cheap ass suits that require little skill to use exist, which in the hands of a good player become even more hax. (HAC, GNAD, just to name two)

However, this is all considering that the players in question aren't one of the extremes - so pro that any suit becomes pretty hax in his hands or so noob that he just rushes into the middle of the enemy, out in the open.

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I don't think suits can really suck. It really depends on how the players uses them. If the player sucks the suit sucks. I use certain A rank like Full Armor Gundam but i suck with him. Doesn't mean he sucks.


my zaku cannon KO F A G

and it's a CS


zaku gunner warrior CU too
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regarding FAZZ, it would be #1 on your OMG MUST KILL list if its buff was on

and regarding stuff like F-A-G, its near unusable, but doesnt really suck

however, CU GM cannon II really really really really sux
to begin with, it has worse stats than trainer suit
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that would be a fine statement without the word "perfectly"
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Okay so its good at best, but definitely not terrible.
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mermaid..................
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mermaid has decent melee so its not THAT bad, hygogg is probably the worst C rock
 
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hygogg w3 is awesome man


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