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04-30-2011
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#41 (permalink)
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Well at OCEX ATK like me , HAC rape people in 1s in the back and 2s at the front
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05-01-2011
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#42 (permalink)
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Not if your out in the open being stupid. Especially if there's 4 people. If it's 1-2 people in Open Vent in the open it's understandable. However for the former...
"OH HERP LOOK AT ME I'M IN OPEN VENT MODE WITH NO COVER. PLEASE RAPE ME WITH BULLETS AND MELEE. I'M ALSO WELCOME TO STUN BUKKAKE. THANK YOU COME AGAIN."
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Kinda sorta covered in the 0.01% skill this brainless thing requires you to have.
I mean what other skill do you need?
RIGHT CLICK + LEFT CLICK HURRR DURRR.
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Originally Posted by xLucifer
despite HAC having its weapon 3 that does insane dmg, as well as all the perks of open vents, its still not easy to play or so to say
its more of a suit invovling stratagy and tactics~ and needs more skill to play than people give it
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How to use HAC in two simple steps.
Step 1: Find enemy.
Step 2: RIGHT CLICK + LEFT CLICK HURRR DURRR.
(Optional) Step 3: Swap modes.
HAC Tactics 101.
Tactic 1: RIGHT CLICK + LEFT CLICK HURRR DURRR.
Tactic 2: N/A
My hate for HAC in PvP is boundless.
Anyway!
@topic - What about...
<The B ranked one.>
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05-01-2011
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#43 (permalink)
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Its just a very standard paper.
Neither great nor terrible
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05-01-2011
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#44 (permalink)
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天使じゃない!
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i acutally like B zaku 3 with reload up on
you can annoy the crap out of people because your KD beam reloads faster than it takes for them to get up 8D
@ retune
from what i've noticed, HAC is a HUGE target, and unless your manual aim is freaking godly, there's no way you can take out someone circling around you at close range.
The best way to beat a HAC is to get out of its range, which isn't that hard on non-gundam fight matches
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05-01-2011
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#45 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by xLucifer
i acutally like B zaku 3 with reload up on
you can annoy the crap out of people because your KD beam reloads faster than it takes for them to get up 8D
@ retune
from what i've noticed, HAC is a HUGE target, and unless your manual aim is freaking godly, there's no way you can take out someone circling around you at close range.
The best way to beat a HAC is to get out of its range, which isn't that hard on non-gundam fight matches
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Jump and shoot downwards at the feg, and don't auto luck 24/7....
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05-02-2011
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#46 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by xLucifer
@ retune
from what i've noticed, HAC is a HUGE target, and unless your manual aim is freaking godly, there's no way you can take out someone circling around you at close range.
The best way to beat a HAC is to get out of its range, which isn't that hard on non-gundam fight matches
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Number 1. HAC is not a huge target. If HAC is huge, then you obviously haven't seen Fridge/ApsI/ApsII/Neue/GN Arms.
Number 2. Someone circling you at short range? SP. Person continues to circle? Walk away and spray. STILL continuing to chase you around? Jump up and spray.
Number 3. Ever heard of taking cover?
Don't try to convince yourself theres any skill involved when using HAC.
@topic - I'm pretty sure Guntank would do a better job than Zaku III in terms of KD that reloads faster than they get up ~ <Guntank probably deals more damage too>
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05-02-2011
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#47 (permalink)
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天使じゃない!
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by huge i meant as in people prioritize killing HAC over lower DPS units, not its size
for example, if you were to see an average A rock rushing at you with a HAC supporting it with fire, you would obviously either try and take out the HAC asap while avoiding the rock or get in cover and take out the rock from there, and then proceed to take out the HAC before any other supporting units to minimize damage
2 was my anti hac tactic that works quite well o_o
3 is what i meant by getting out of its range, get to a place where it cant spray you to death lol
dont get me wrong, i dont mean HAC takes alot of skill to play, but that dones't mean it takes none. It does take some battlefield awareness and good decision making, which is something i see alot of the players using the suit seem to lack. I dont classify it as a completely brainless suit as you've noticed, hacs that run towards you with guns blazing ussually get wiped out rather quickly
on topic. guntank is indeed better however, you have to scope in to get that instant shot while zaku 3 has a beam~ i think zaku 3 can handle 1v2 better than many other units due to its annoying KD beams lol guntank does way better in most other situations though
kd 1 person, hide, hit other person if possible, kd them, repeat
tbh i think it brings back the instant vs non-instant weapons o_o
damage wise: i never paid attention sorry DX
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05-02-2011
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#48 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by xLucifer
on topic. guntank is indeed better however, you have to scope in to get that instant shot while zaku 3 has a beam~ i think zaku 3 can handle 1v2 better than many other units due to its annoying KD beams lol guntank does way better in most other situations though
kd 1 person, hide, hit other person if possible, kd them, repeat
tbh i think it brings back the instant vs non-instant weapons o_o
damage wise: i never paid attention sorry DX
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I'll stop going off topic with my HAC hate A_A
Guntank's QS is already pretty smooth right off the bat, so I don't see its a problem of instant vs non-instant. Learning how to QS consistently is pretty hard though, have to admit.
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07-15-2011
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#49 (permalink)
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vote for Retune's hate for HAC..
GM series suck..
Zakus have better performances
(they're the same "food" MS in the animes)
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07-15-2011
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#50 (permalink)
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GM powered
GM III
GM III CR
GM quel
They are quite good, and even the normal GM is not bad.
I rather say that you are the one that sucks.
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07-15-2011
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Originally Posted by Crimsonred
GM powered
GM III
GM III CR
GM quel
They are quite good, and even the normal GM is not bad.
I rather say that you are the one that sucks.
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I second melty !
Suits like CR GM III can kick ass big time.
GM Cold Climate both C and CS ain't no shit. 
The GMs are not as bad. Hence, I like them as much as some Zakus like CR Zaku II Fz.
Definitely most GMs and Zakus have different skill sets.(most of them)
So players can choose which suit they like/prefer more because of the skill and weapon set.
However, you cannot simply say that GM sucks maybe because you suck in it.
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07-15-2011
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#52 (permalink)
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Well, me and my friends here share the same opinions.
Cap'ed both GMs and Zakus for awhile, then they would say a "Yippie" when they got all those Zakus and a *Sigh, GM again.." when they cap'ed GMs.
I wouldn't mind if you say that I sucked at playing them GMs tho, I still prefer those Zakus.
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07-15-2011
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Zakus are on a different level than GMs (Especially when you consider CU Zaku II is a mega C rank tank, Zaku Cannon is a top-tier sniper, Magellan Cannon Zaku II is a good sniper, CR Zaku I is a great aura supporter)
But that doesn't make them shitty. GM Powered has a rather long boost, CR GM III is a nice rock, and Ground type GMs are trolls to the max.
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07-15-2011
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Quote:
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Zakus are on a different level than GMs (Especially when you consider CU Zaku II is a mega C rank tank, Zaku Cannon is a top-tier sniper, Magellan Cannon Zaku II is a good sniper, CR Zaku I is a great aura supporter)
But that doesn't make them shitty. GM Powered has a rather long boost, CR GM III is a nice rock, and Ground type GMs are trolls to the max.
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Wait no ground type CR is just godly. (and annoying)
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07-15-2011
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iirc the standard GM functions like a mini BD3, without EXAM.
Its not bad if you're good at kiting.
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07-15-2011
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#56 (permalink)
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It also has vet ranger, not a bad skill to have.
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11-03-2011
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well i hated gm ground type cu rank i used to hate it, once i got it overcustom 3 THEN THAT WAS WHEN I LOVE THE **** OUTTA IT THE MISSILES FIRE HOMES AND THEN I OWNED the beam rifle was badass even the special + saber attacks was fine EVERY C RANK IS NOT BAD
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11-03-2011
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The Ordinary Witch uguuuu
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Originally Posted by WillyFan123
well i hated gm ground type cu rank i used to hate it, once i got it overcustom 3 THEN THAT WAS WHEN I LOVE THE **** OUTTA IT THE MISSILES FIRE HOMES AND THEN I OWNED the beam rifle was badass even the special + saber attacks was fine EVERY C RANK IS NOT BAD
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I lol'd. Also, please don't necro.
This is bullshit.
CU has a machinegun.
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11-25-2011
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#59 (permalink)
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full armor gundam
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11-25-2011
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Apparently Alvatore too. I've heard nothing but bad things about it.
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