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This thread is made for the purpose of Kefka's Looking for team players to discuss some of the suit combo we can use for serious 4vs4 battle.

Though, even if you didn't join the team, you're still welcome to comment or share your thought (but no troll please)

But before we do some discussion, anyone who joined the team or intend to do so, please list the following:

1. All of your S rank
2. All of your A rank (if you got more than 5 A rank, just list a few that it's generally considered powerful, examples such as ARPA, AR Dynames...)
3. All of your suits that have team-skill (Assault/Defense/Radar Command, Cry of the Peacecraft, etc.)
4. All of your suits that have the Stun/Bullet Zero/Confuse Effect (Boost Down is too common so no need to list those)
5. All of your healer suits, if any
6. Name one of the suits you played best at (doesn't have to be best, just name one)
7. Or just list ALL of your suits if you want, makes the work easier...

*there's a total of 5 categories in the list above beside the last two question, if you got a suit that belong to multiple category, you don't need to list it multiple times*

The reason I'm asking so many questions is because that I heard some of the people don't have a wide selection of suits yet, so I'm gathering some info here to see what kind of useful suit our players can get in short time.

(for instance, for new players, making Nu Gundam would require a lot of time, you gotta get RE-GZ's plan first then mix it, then you gotta get Dijeh and other materials, then there's super lot of exp to fill...)


I bet anyone here can definitely list a few useful team combo, but if our players don't have the suits, then the discussion is almost totally useless, so I really need some info...

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I don't know at all, other than your Freedom and BD2
 
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Not really a troll post so...
Most of us know what *** suits there are. The more *** suits u have, the better chance u got at winning.
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1. God Gundam OC5 and very soon Nu ziel

2. I have AS:Shining gundam, Apulus II (both at OC1) (gundams skill 1)Agis gundam,Kyrios, AR and regular A psycho gundam.

3. S rank nu ziels attack up to team..
A rank, apulus II and AR psycho gundams Defense all.
B rank BS: Blue astray logren launcher2nd and BR Red astray flight kai with cgue head with view communications.
BS cgue deep arms and BU gound gundams all attack up.

4. God gundam, apulus II, BR Red Astray, kyrios, Blue astray.
5. Methuss
6. God Gundam(OC5), BS blue astray(L)(OC4), CR bacue(C4OC2), BR Red astray(OC2)

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Not really a troll post so...
Most of us know what *** suits there are. The more *** suits u have, the better chance u got at winning.
True, but not exactly right all the time too...
Also like I said, I don't know what kind of suit everyone has, hence why I asked in details...

BR Zaku III, DSH, DSHC, HAC...they're all hax suits no doubt, but they all lack team-skill, who's to say other than using hax suit as well, that there's no combo to counter them?
Here we are just discussing those possibilities x]

Anyway, I know what you mean
 
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Team Skillarz - ARPA(Assault), T3(Peacecraft), GP02 MLRS(Assault), Blue 2LL(Comms)
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True, but not exactly right all the time too...
Also like I said, I don't know what kind of suit everyone has, hence why I asked in details...

BR Zaku III, DSH, DSHC, HAC...they're all hax suits no doubt, but they all lack team-skill, who's to say other than using hax suit as well, that there's no combo to counter them?
Here we are just discussing those possibilities x]

Anyway, I know what you mean


Well, Amatsu does not exactly have any team-skills, but it is still used in a lot of competitive teams. =/

You can bet that DSHC, HAC and etc will appear regularly in Black Teams that does not have the 13-points restriction.
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Well, Amatsu does not exactly have any team-skills, but it is still used in a lot of competitive teams. =/

You can bet that DSHC, HAC and etc will appear regularly in Black Teams that does not have the 13-points restriction.
Uh...did you misunderstood me thinking that I only want suits with team-skill?
I was only asking to see what kind of combo choices we can have~

And for your second statement, I agree and there's nothing wrong with it, I just don't get what are you saying it for.

Anyway, until most ppl's suit's info are acquired, the real discussion will start
 
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Uh...did you misunderstood me thinking that I only want suits with team-skill?
I was only asking to see what kind of combo choices we can have~

And for your second statement, I agree and there's nothing wrong with it, I just don't get what are you saying it for.

Anyway, until most ppl's suit's info are acquired, the real discussion will start
All I am saying is it that having auras does not break a suit.

I mean, T2, Commander Guaiz and stuff has dual auras, but you don't see them used. I don't think it is practical to ask all suits that have auras to be listed.

Just my suggestion.
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All I am saying is it that having auras does not break a suit.

I mean, T2, Commander Guaiz and stuff has dual auras, but you don't see them used. I don't think it is practical to ask all suits that have auras to be listed.
How should I explain this whole thing...

Ok, your first statement of having aura alone does not break a suit, when did I say it aura alone break suit? I only said certain combination of suits (which may have suits with team-skill in it) may be able to counter certain powerful suit.

Second, suits that are not commonly used doesn't mean they are useless (T2 I can agree, but not Guaiz which also has Bullet Zero whip)

And, I'm only asking the team-skill suit they have, not the whole SD's team-skill suits! Are there really that many to list?
 
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Seriously Why are HAC and DSHC so broken? You think the developers would make balanced suits. How Is BR Zaku III broken?

Team boost skills and recovery units are good support but some possibilities I think blitz is going for is What suits complement on each other while in battle or recon or distraction. Like someone with a bullet zero ailment on a MA which can make it save for the power house of the group to go in and rip it apart while someone else with knockdown damage watches the power houses back. Thats some of my thoughts.

Or a team of fast melee suits(ball K, Blue destiny) cause some disorientation and add someone with control shock to add to that chaos. and... add funnels somewhere in there..

Do team boost stats stack on team boost stats? Like Assault command + Spirit of Zeon = team on crack?

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How Is BR Zaku III broken?
Play it and you will understand the gayness of having 3 lives and uber dmg as well as being annoying as poop.

Also u are on the right track. Team comps need to focus on being offensive or defensive. Sometimes mixing both is good but usually a teamcomp of regular players has a set playstyle.
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1.Seriously Why are HAC and DSHC so broken?

2.How Is BR Zaku III broken?

3.Or a team of fast melee suits(ball K, Blue destiny) cause some disorientation and add someone with control shock to add to that chaos. and... add funnels somewhere in there..

4.Do team boost stats stack on team boost stats? Like Assault command + Spirit of Zeon = team on crack?
1. Bcos they are GAY.

2. Uber fast stun, uber stun dmg, uber beam dmg.

3. Full team of melee is equal to marching into a minefield, takes alot of luck to win, a good team needs to be able to do battle in all ranges. Especially defence oriented teams.

4. Yes and yes. But to be more hax, Crest of Winner House, Cry of Peacecraft, Defence Command , Dozle Pride on Dozle Zaku..... That is one invulnerable zaku man....
 
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1. Bcos they are GAY.

2. Uber fast stun, uber stun dmg, uber beam dmg.

3. Full team of melee is equal to marching into a minefield, takes alot of luck to win, a good team needs to be able to do battle in all ranges. Especially defence oriented teams.

4. Yes and yes. But to be more hax, Crest of Winner House, Cry of Peacecraft, Defence Command , Dozle Pride on Dozle Zaku..... That is one invulnerable zaku man....
No wonder why that thing is so hard to beat. Defence comand and dozel pride on the dozel zaku O.o... might as well throw in spirit of zeon or another defense to that horrible thing.
 
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Second, suits that are not commonly used doesn't mean they are useless (T2 I can agree, but not Guaiz which also has Bullet Zero whip)

And, I'm only asking the team-skill suit they have, not the whole SD's team-skill suits! Are there really that many to list?
I am not saying Guaiz Commander is useless. I am saying that it is not commonly used. That is probably due to it not being a OP suit.

Well, I don't know about everyone, but there are over 50 units with team-support skills. I probably have like at least 20, but scrap that. The point is, do you really want people to post like, "I have a M1A. It has radar" or "I have CR Dinn, it has Assault Command"? That's what I am trying to convey when I say that "auras does not break a suit". There is honestly no point in listing suits that has auras, because while some are good, there are many that are not. And that applies for non-aura suits as well.

Ionno. I think most people here should have a pretty good idea what suits are suitable for black-room play and what suits are not. Posting those + suits they are good at should be good enough IMO. For those that are unsure, they can just post every suits they have.
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1.S rank----> I dont have any
2.A Rank----> DSH, V Dash for some Beam Spam, etc.
3. Defense: BR ReGelg, HAK, Assault: MLRS Command: Impulse, currently making Zaku Command
4. Bullet Zero: Nobel Berserk
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1.S rank----> I dont have any
2.A Rank----> DSH, V Dash for some Beam Spam, etc.
3. Defense: BR ReGelg, HAK, Assault: MLRS Command: Impulse, currently making Zaku Command
4. Bullet Zero: Nobel Berserk
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6. suit that i played best? MLRS/V Dash for Paper, DSH/Blitz for Rock, Freedom for Scissors (Alt though), BR ReGelg and Force Imp.
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