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06-09-2011   #981 (permalink)
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Bit slow, but nothing a little warmups can't make you get used to how good it is
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I give up on forcing my definition of good to people, nowadays all they want is feg suits and I hate it so much but have no right since it's not my game, it's a shared MMOG by people which means they have a freedom of choice.
No point arguing about what suit is better.
That's why I just put a list.
 
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That's why I specifically said to broaden views.

People nowadays want things to be ***s, or else its shit.

Remember, I used to main T3 to hell and back. But then I started TRYING things that I was once afraid to use, then I fully decided if its shit or not. I broke away from bandwagons, I made my own choice. I locked myself away of ***s like DSHC and T3 outside BS matches (just to get over with it quickly). Suddenly, I accepted things that I once rejected. Like Green Frame and AS The O.
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And I'm trying to broaden her view. You shouldn't try to constrict your definitions so strictly.

I know well what she asks for. "Good" doesn't mean excellent. And "Good" stats is exactly what describes Kampfer. "Good" ranged weapons: Shotgun fire instantaneously, and easily hits enemy in the splash, and at the same time there is no damage discrimination in the splash (i.e. stray people hit by the shotgun gets the same damage as the people who gets hit in the face), is that not good enough?

"Good" Melee range: Kampfer has the average beam saber range, that's good enough.

People who confine their views in such narrow vision obviously means he or she does not fully understand how one unit can fit into the descriptions.
Fine. I'll take the point about his melee range back then. Standard melee range is perfectly decent, if thats your definition of good.

Anyway. You're bashing me for saying Kampfer's ranged set isn't any good?

I'd like to point out that this is what I said about his shotgun.

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Ranged game. Shotgun is mid-close. Ammo is short, although reload is good. I say its a great ranged wep. Failed two requirements, passed 1.
Given that Kampfer had failed two requirements until that point. See what I did there?
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Yes, I sheepishly admit I missed that.

Still, you all shouldn't really constrict your wants. Trying things make you discover things. Things that you will suddenly like and want badly.

Problem here is definition. I don't want to restrict my views to just one narrow line, and you want it to be literally what it is.

Best way is simply this: Try. There's absolutely nothing wrong with trying. What, waste Gs? Not like you can't regain it.
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Yes, I sheepishly admit I missed that.

Still, you all shouldn't really constrict your wants. Trying things make you discover things. Things that you will suddenly like and want badly.

Problem here is definition. I don't want to restrict my views to just one narrow line, and you want it to be literally what it is.

Best way is simply this: Try. There's absolutely nothing wrong with trying. What, waste Gs? Not like you can't regain it.
Psh. Like I said before. I love that little chainmine feg Kampfer to no end.

I regret sadly that I broke my C4 one long ago, when I was just starting out

Definitions. Its annoying how the English language can have a single word that means so many things, huh.

I know how good a suit Kampfer is. During my short time on TW it was my main suit.

My definitions were extra pedantic because I was trying to troll a certain someone A_A
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Not to mention Kampfer is a very friendly unit in terms of use.

Shotguns is practically the easiest weapon to fire because it fires right away, and the splash doesnt discriminate damage.

Chainmines has no boost, and deals ****tons of damage.
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It's damn short and rapidly shortens, though =.=' very hard to use as a counter.
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... You don't use it as a counter?

You use it as an opener, not a counter.

The chainmines should be used offensively, not defensively. Its to do damage, thus you don't use it to save your ass. You do it to kill.
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It's damn short and rapidly shortens, though =.=' very hard to use as a counter.
You don't ._.

I always use it as a sneak-up-and-ninja-people-in-their-ass weapon.

...or part of my melee combo. Whatever works.
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... You don't use it as a counter?

You use it as an opener, not a counter.

The chainmines should be used offensively, not defensively. Its to do damage, thus you don't use it to save your ass. You do it to kill.
It's also a good finisher.
The damage is so awesome with skill parts
 
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Sure, but oftentimes I have to use it to counter a rusher, and it is always too damn short.
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Kampfer prolly has one of the cheapest range weapons, that's why I placed it there. I don't know why, but I prefer this over BD2.

There's BR Gelgoog too. This suit is okay in my opinion because I had one of these back then when I first started out.

Gyan is a trollerific rock with epic stun mines and shield nades that puts a good hurt on enemies. It is the only rock that is capable of achieving maximum trolling at a 3 vs 1 and come out with minimum damage.



Then again, if you want a mini Strike Noir, there's always Hambrabi.
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BR gelgoog has aged badly, not that great now.
Hamarabi.... it needs some tweaks
 
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People once said Gelgoog Marine sucks.

I tried it and it is actually decent.

Also The-O AS was always good. I likes the spin.

On the other hand about Green Frame....

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Yeah.
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I'm going to reserve final judgement on the BS ranked Qubeley till i get all of its skills, but i remember reading somewhere that it was a decent B rank, but quite honestly I dont see it yet. The active cannons got some range, but the damage just seems to leave something to be desired and the funnels dont seem to last as long compared to the other 2 Qubeleys (however they seem to reload faster too)
 
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I'm going to reserve final judgement on the BS ranked Qubeley till i get all of its skills, but i remember reading somewhere that it was a decent B rank, but quite honestly I dont see it yet. The active cannons got some range, but the damage just seems to leave something to be desired and the funnels dont seem to last as long compared to the other 2 Qubeleys (however they seem to reload faster too)
It deals slow damage over time, and lacks that instantaneous hurt to prevent rocks from coming in.

Weak against suits with paper defense as well. I had a much harder time using it then compared to Jagd Doga.
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1. If you require a crutch range to melee, don't play rocks.

2. OH JOY STATS. NOT THIS CRAPPY ARGUMENT AGAIN. Kampfer is still a strong B rank for all that I care. 4 Speed + attack is a beast. Its strength is simply how much it packs. I can even do a simile, Guntank is one of the best snipers, but yet its stats is one of the worst in C ranks.

3. Oh, you need it to be beam rifle range? Never mind that shotguns can punch a hole into someone even if he hugs a corner. Shotguns can trap hard.

One of my mains is Kampfer. I know how powerful it is, and I've been using it since my 4 stripe days.
Oh crap , musta used wrong words again . ( or I forgot to mention ) by stats I mean that they have enough strength or durability that goes with the player skill . But anyhow oooh Kampfer eh ? I shud try one . Question : Hambrabi is a has good melee speed ? I want a B rank with a good heat rod . ( Don`t recomend me Gouf Ignited , Heat Rod seems kinda short ........... ) Again I thank all the experts in here.
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Question : Hambrabi is a has good melee speed ? I want a B rank with a good heat rod . ( Don`t recomend me Gouf Ignited , Heat Rod seems kinda short ........... ) Again I thank all the experts in here.
Hambrabi's melee is average..
Lengths of heat rod are almost the same/ exactly the same, but i know that some suit's rod are thicker so it would seem like it is longer than others..
 

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