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It's a grunt!
It doesn't deserve trans am!
Not when reborn's still doesn't have it.
And I'm guessing we get more garazzos and gaddessas with trans am.
Ugh.
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It's a grunt!
It doesn't deserve trans am!
Not when reborn's still doesn't have it.
And I'm guessing we get more garazzos and gaddessas with trans am.
Ugh.
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lol, but S Gundam is AR :>
GN XIV is easier to get.
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I'm really sad they didn't make GNXIV a little stronger, I really like this suit ;_;

GNXIV is sadly in an awkward position: It is neither strong or weak.

Compare to both Wing, Wing Zero Gundam, who are both scissor with non-KD long beam rifle, and S Gundam, who also has the above feature with another powerful and unique w2...

In term of power: WZ (1950) > W (1850) > GNXIV (1600) > S (1550)
In term of ammo: WZ/W/S (3) > GNXIV (2)
In term of maneuverability: GNXIV (shot can be fired when moving) > WZ/W/S (shot cannot be fired when moving)
In term of melee (all 4 hits): S (1250) > GNXIV (1150) > WZ (1000) > W (900)
*S Gundam's melee is indeed fast and have better dmg than GNXIV, but GNXIV's melee is like top tier among scissor, you can even rival it against rock if not for only having 4 hits instead of 5 (fast, decent range, all 4 hits can hit ground and 2 units' length, it's like every scissor's dream!)
In term of skill set: WZ (zero system) > S (alice system) = W (high OS B) > GNXIV (nothing! NO TRANSAM! T_T)

Some other pros and cons...

Cons:
- being all beam weaponry (however S Gundam shares the same fate)
- not unique enough such as compared to S Gundam's lighting fast and powerful beam rifle
- doesn't have melee or range sp (map sp is not exactly all bad, but when u only have 1 mode to use, then...)
- 1 mode only
- SUPER LOW AGI...WTF (14.4...lowest AGI stat even in all B scissor ranking)

Pros:
- compared to other 3 suits, GNXIV's the only one who have the most advantage fighting with covers and with the best maneuverability (kinda the most important advantage...)
- beam rifle's dmg is slighter higher than a standard A rank (1200 for standard, 50 dmg more...better than nothing? XD)
- default speed is better than all other 3 suits (only WZ can kinda rival it), S Gundam is comparably much slower (23.7 vs 19.5)

Ties(?):

- S Gundam's beam rifle is much more powerful and has less interval delay, but to balance that its ammo is much lower; GNXIV's rifle is nothing special, but nevertheless still a good weapon, having good handle, dmg, and ammo, it just can't burst hax dmg in short time :/

If it can be buffed a little bit more, like replacing Def Up for Trans-AM, or giving it melee/range sp instead of map sp, or at least raise its multiplier on w3 like WZ's, then really it can somewhat stand equally to like S Gundam...

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I'm really sad they didn't make GNXIV a little stronger, I really like this suit ;_;

GNXIV is sadly in an awkward position: It is neither strong or weak.

Compare to both Wing, Wing Zero Gundam, who are both scissor with non-KD long beam rifle, and S Gundam, who also has the above feature with another powerful and unique w2...

In term of power: WZ (1950) > W (1850) > GNXIV (1600) > S (1550)
In term of ammo: WZ/W/S (3) > GNXIV (2)
In term of maneuverability: GNXIV (shot can be fired when moving) > WZ/W/S (shot cannot be fired when moving)
In term of melee (all 4 hits): S (1250) > GNXIV (1150) > WZ (1000) > W (900)
*S Gundam's melee is indeed fast and have better dmg than GNXIV, but GNXIV's melee is like top tier among scissor, you can even rival it against rock if not for only having 4 hits instead of 5 (fast, decent range, all 4 hits can hit ground and 2 units' length, it's like every scissor's dream!)
In term of skill set: WZ (zero system) > S (alice system) = W (high OS B) > GNXIV (nothing! NO TRANSAM! T_T)

Some other pros and cons...

Cons:
- being all beam weaponry (however S Gundam shares the same fate)
- not unique enough such as compared to S Gundam's lighting fast and powerful beam rifle
- doesn't have melee or range sp (map sp is not exactly all bad, but when u only have 1 mode to use, then...)
- 1 mode only
- SUPER LOW AGI...WTF (14.4...lowest AGI stat even in all B scissor ranking)

Pros:
- compared to other 3 suits, GNXIV's the only one who have the most advantage fighting with covers and with the best maneuverability (kinda the most important advantage...)
- beam rifle's dmg is slighter higher than a standard A rank (1200 for standard, 50 dmg more...better than nothing? XD)
- default speed is better than all other 3 suits (only WZ can kinda rival it), S Gundam is comparably much slower (23.7 vs 19.5)

Ties(?):

- S Gundam's beam rifle is much more powerful and has less interval delay, but to balance that its ammo is much lower; GNXIV's rifle is nothing special, but nevertheless still a good weapon, having good handle, dmg, and ammo, it just can't burst hax dmg in short time :/

If it can be buffed a little bit more, like replacing Def Up for Trans-AM, or giving it melee/range sp instead of map sp, or at least raise its multiplier on w3 like WZ's, then really it can somewhat stand equally to like S Gundam...
S gundam's flashlight has no delay, can be shot while moving....
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S gundam's flashlight has no delay, can be shot while moving....
Seriously? I watched a few videos but never saw any player doing that...
 
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Seriously? I watched a few videos but never saw any player doing that...


At the very start...
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At the very start...
Well ok...that confirms it then, my mistake, S Gundam is indeed superior now that problem doesn't exist, but other facts can still stand on the ground...
 
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Well ok...that confirms it then, my mistake, S Gundam is indeed superior now that problem doesn't exist, but other facts can still stand on the ground...
I don't like Superior gundam that much currently..
Cause it's lacking a MA mode and Incom.
I was looking forward to how they made Incom work in this game too....
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if they dont vastly improve the AS/AR GNXIVs.....

I would lol if they give Patrick Custom GNXIV GN field.
 
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Doesn't S-Gundam have ALL of that, on top of good skills and a deeper clip for the long ranged beam?
S-Gundam is definitely better for sniping and supporting. It's w2's fast firing makes it a scary support unit. However, just like what Blizt said, GNXIV has a very impressive melee. MCAing with it is a piece of cake, as long as you don't ran out of boost.

But I think that GNXIV is a good unit to try out if you want a scissor with great melee and options for all ranges. It will probably be great for rock users who want a rank A scissor unit. S-Gundam also has options for all ranges, but I tend to struggle more when a rock gets close.
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So, in terms of GN Archer, aside from being fragile as hell but having lovely missiles, how's it stand up? And any thoughts on how to C/OC it?
 
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GN Archer gets a treatment of full attack. That's all it needs. Its a cute bruiser.

The thing is, for its power, GN Archer is too fragile for face-to-face confrontations, and thus you have to keep applying pressure. Just play like a scissors: Support your rocks and shoot papers.
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i'd like to point out that the highest damage weapon is weapon 1 in mode 2 for GN Archer

if you spam it, it hurts like shit
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just got GN archer, was about to ask for advice but seems im already on topic =P

I'm guessing you'll be staying in plane mode with Archer most of the time?
 
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My opinion is, just wait for AS Kyrios.

Then again, if you are from TW, there's some heavy locking of plans going on.
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>Keep GN Archer
>Mix Kyrios AS
>Mix Arios
>???
>Profit
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cept mixing arios isnt exactly profit
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But's its extremely satisfying to spam so many shots at once.
And pewpew is fun.
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