S Rank Discussion Thread
 

Since there is not much activity here, I'll just try to continue the discussion on destiny gundam from the other page. Keep it to facts guys, no need to start flaming, you can prove your statements with facts instead of colourful words.

1+2. Already explained in my earlier reply. To add Destiny has a slower swing but has a much wider hit radius. I am not sure what your comment on plamo hitting real players refers to, but when catching opponents you should start with your sword.

3.You dont need to transform. You can knockdown beam in your normal mode, if your in melee mode then you can do the same as freedom and rush in to melee. By your logic Freedom is forced to rush in to melee if he cant shoot the opponent down, so its one less option to shoot from cover (making it more risky incase an enermy backup comes). Even if you are required to transform on Destiny doesnt take long on a decent computer, you can refer to videos of mode switching if you need (it is faster than MA transformations)

4.Hexagons for attack dont mean much when the units uses different weapons, even when they use the same type one unit can do more damage than another. Example of this would be FAZZ's missles is stronger than Sazabi's missles (even though Sazabi has higher attack on the hexagon). As for stringing weapons most people can fit 1-2 sets of w2-3 on freedom before the opponent realises hes being hit and looks for cover. The damage on that is not much different to one set of w1+2+3+2 from destiny (from experience I would say destiny seems to hit even harder, but that could be due to more destinys being OCed relative to Freedoms).

5. I have played both before too, but a lot of my experience also comes from playing with/against skilled players using both suits and knowing what they excel at and the best options for them to take in a team battle situation.

6. Nobody said to solely rely on melee to fend off rocks. Freedom can use n-jammer to run away, destiny knockdown beam to run away. If they have to melee freedom swings faster but destiny swings wider and has boost down at the end of the combo.

destiny is a very solid suit. If you are good with melee you can out melee alotta rocks, nice ranged weapon set, nice defense, high dmg special, pretty much put points into attack and it becomes a beast

Yes I was solely talking about melee. Chances are that unless its a point match, the palma attack would never be used. No one will rush, and obviously u would probably never go into melee unless ur desperate. As for being able to out melee alot of rocks, probably low tier, mid tier ones if your pro. Destiny's swing is just a bit better than altron (A rank) and altron has a pretty bad first swing....

knockdown beam scroos ur switch shotting on a single opponent. Yes ur gonna throw boomerangs, beam, knockdown, wait-for-their-invince-frame-to-go-away. Its impossible to switch shot for more damage like freedom. Knockdowns can be ur enemy and ur friend.

But yes, Destiny is a solid suit for support fire but its attack is LOW compared to freedom. Significantly enough to see when u first play it. But it makes up for it in the spec and weapon set. Seed EX is pretty nice unless ur chased by a DSHC or fished by a nataku...1CKO same with freedom's njammer

Beam rifle on Destiny is slow compared to Freedom / Sazabi. :py27:

Destiny having lower attack than Freedom is mostly untrue. Sure, it has less attack out of the box, noone could argue this, but it maximizes its attack with Seed EX. This is actually quite huge. This means that any attack you put into it pays off a lot more than normal.

'Tis your choice if you wish to compare plain units, or decently OC'd units. e.g. If we only talk about plain units with only their skills then V2 is one of the worst S ranks. If we consider OC then it suddenly owns.

If you take such a long time to transform then:
- Your computer is bad.
- Your connection is bad.
- (You should feel bad.)

Freedom is still the worst scissors S rank in the game.

Neue Ziel has Aura - Attack Up for Team.
Because of this, you should try to stay alive as much as possible. So, even though being a rock and it has antiflinch, you shouldn't dash right in and try to melee your opponent's team. You should use your Wire Guided Arm (Funnel thingy) and use Megaparticle beam. Don't use the Quad Beam rifles ... use it sparingly!

agreed with what mew said, just try and stay alive to keep the team buffed, also the quad beams have horrible reload, only use it if you got a paper or something mid ranging you. even then tho you should megpart it and let your teammates take care of it

I disagree with the two ways you guys use Ziel. Ziel is basically a big bait boy. Your job is to make the other team aim for you so your teammates get the chance to kill the people aiming at you. Yes it has aura but just staying alive for just the sake of aura isn't that effective due to the fact that you are too big to find decent cover and your beams are meh.

The reason why I play it as stated above is due to one large factor. I suck with it! lol

LOL
Heres some stars:py03::py03::py03:

yay! now give me some pie :D

GN Arms Type-E Exia should have that massive GN sword normal Exia has when purging.
It isn't Exia without it. = =

Well seeing as how he has like what....7 blades or something like that? He is allowed to use more than one...lol

is V(nu) better or sazabi? anyone any suggest?

^this. SHORT!!!!!!

This may be true but sazabi is alot easier to use overall. Im sill having issues keeping my ammo in check when in I-field mode. Sazabi can just blast away and have fortress help him for a while.