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Hell, Master Gundam has a 1300 beam rifle, with 18.3 attack, AND ITS A FREAKING ROCK.
-Looks at IJ's 1300 w2 and 1600 w3 with 21.5 attack-

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What, if you think its DPS is horrible then you should probably break your Destiny and use something else instead.

I've also said that I sneak behind enemy lines and melee with Destiny. Once again you failed to read some posts.

Also, blah blah blah.

U mad bro?
First time seeing Buster like that o___o

From my experiences using a paper and fighting destinys (mostly from Zeno = =) they can do good damage despite the "low DPS". It's a suit thats suppose to chip away your health slowly while you are concentrated on something else (from my own point of view).
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What, if you think its DPS is horrible then you should probably break your Destiny and use something else instead.
Irrelevant. I think Destiny is horrible~okay at best, but I keep it because I want to keep it.

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I've also said that I sneak behind enemy lines and melee with Destiny. Once again you failed to read some posts.
Read your own post.

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Stay somewhere safe
Unload weapons on enemies and support your team mates

???
Profit!

Some players also use Destiny to lure in their opponents for an ambush. Destiny is more of a commander-type mobile suit that supports with awesome DPS from behind. But as for me, I often circle around maps and punt the unsuspecting papers with the destiny palm/melee and then escape before their rocks can retreat to help out their team mates.
I have underlined the important bits.
"Unload weapons on enemies and support your team mates"
First, you give horrible advice to him. We've already established that Destiny has pitiful ranged DPS. No way you can say this is "unloading" melee attacks on enemies to support. You say a SAFE place. Behind enemy lines is definitely nowhere safe.

"supports with awesome DPS from behind"
Of course, following the previous statement, I assumed you meant from behind your teammates. If you really did mean behind enemies, then fine.

"But as for me..."
Then why tell him to do something different? Why didn't you just tell him to use melee mode and backstab the enemy?

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Also, blah blah blah.

U mad bro?
I'm pretty mad that you guys, what I thought were really great people at SDGO, seem to believe a suit dumped with the worst ranged specs in the game has anywhere close to acceptable DPS. (I'm only talking about some of you guys obviously. Not everyone on this forum.)

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-Looks at IJ's 1300 w2 and 1600 w3 with 21.5 attack-

IJ > Other scissors
Yea, not to mention 00R's 1700 blade beam...
But they're SS ranks so I sorta expected them to rape everything.

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I'm pretty mad that you guys, what I thought were really great people at SDGO, seem to believe a suit dumped with the worst ranged specs in the game has anywhere close to acceptable DPS. (I'm only talking about some of you guys obviously. Not everyone on this forum.)
Just drop it here before it escalates.
I can say how hamarabi is a suit that rivals even BD2 but nobody will believe me.
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First time seeing Buster like that o___o
I admit to 'having replied inappropriately' because he's so damn agitated over something so small. I got amused to his 'omg he's reply wrongly!!!11' kind of thinking.

So maybe Destiny's DPS wasn't that awesome. It's enough for me so why do you bother to come with

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Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. Serious? Destiny has shit DPS unless you're meleeing someone.
...kind of post. So he's definitely trying to ridicule me. He could have said it in a non-trollbaiting kind of way.

Just saying. You know how it is.

I've seen Destiny players lure enemies in and then whack them in an ambush. I've also seen Destiny players use their W1>W2>W2>/W3 to KO a target that's already being shot at. People often chase Destiny Gundams because they think it is shitty. Destiny players should learn to use that to their advantage too. So how is that not useful?

I just shared my thoughts so why so mad bro?
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Imo this guy wants me to show him I laugh. Something a bit off there.

You want lower DPS? Go use Arios, 1 shot barely ticks away HP, Arios is only good if it lands multiple shots, sure if you have submachine guns on it, but what if it was an average TW player playing it?

Here I'll also discuss another S with a crappy beam rifle, Akatsuki Shirunai. Who cares about stats, that rifle sucks so much I rather use the other Akatsuki.

Who cares about DPS and stats, I still use Destiny. Any player with good skills can make almost any suit perform exceptionally.
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Well I apologize that I have behaved inappropriately. It wasn't my intention to troll or w/e really. What I'm trying to establish here is that people should not be afraid to try different things and not stick to what others normally say.

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"Unload weapons on enemies and support your team mates"
First, you give horrible advice to him. We've already established that Destiny has pitiful ranged DPS. No way you can say this is "unloading" melee attacks on enemies to support. You say a SAFE place. Behind enemy lines is definitely nowhere safe.


If staying back and unloading your weapons on your opponents is wrong, then everyone is probably doing it wrong on all their suits. Maybe Chsal has misunderstood me because I never said anything about unloading weapons behind enemy lines. That's just stupid. I did say that I often circle around maps to melee unsuspecting papers before their rocks could retreat and assist them.

Tl;dr

Stay somewhere safe (this means stay with your team)
Unload weapons and assist team mates
???
Profit!

If he's not gonna admit his mistake, then I will be the bigger man and admit it for him, paired with my most sincerest apologies.

There, we savvy now?
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Destiny`s beam rifle was THAT BAD ? *shocking music plays* oh hell I find it decent .......... I find it as good as Freedom`s or Akat`s maybe`s its just me But I must say Dest is Decent
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Destiny`s beam rifle was THAT BAD ? *shocking music plays* oh hell I find it decent .......... I find it as good as Freedom`s or Akat`s maybe`s its just me But I must say Dest is Decent
Destiny has really terribad damage on the rifle, maybe not as bad as Char Zgok bad (475*2), but you get the idea. =))

That's why they always do the W1>W2 combo so that it's 3 hits instead of just two. Hook-shot is always good, but I stick to my one-two style to maximize damage. But take note that I do it from a safe place so that I don't eat T3 cannon shots like a boss.
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So he's definitely trying to ridicule me
No offense was intended in that post. I was "agitated" because I saw something that wasn't just slightly wrong, but completely off the mark, and then had to prove it. If you were offended, then I'm sorry.

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Imo this guy wants me to show him I laugh. Something a bit off there.
I wanted you to show me a beam rifle with even lower damage than Destiny's.

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Depends on firing speed. But too bad we have no frame data.

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Well some people do care. Knowledge is part of what makes you better. You could be the best at aiming ever but you aren't using your full potential if you're using inefficient weapons.

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Who knows? Maybe they are. But they won't know they're doing it wrong until they get some numbers!. Games develop when people work out the theory behind things, then apply.

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I don't want to argue with anyone anymore either. Let's be friends from now on.
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Destiny has low damage with beam rifle.
Commence OC fegging everything into ATK.
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I just hope Destiny's KR buffs arrives on TW soon, I don't get it why a sword thats as huge as the suit has the range of a toothpick

I've no idea how anyone can use Destiny without any C/OC in attack, the damage is just so pitiful without points in attack
 
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I just hope Destiny's KR buffs arrives on TW soon, I don't get it why a sword thats as huge as the suit has the range of a toothpick

I've no idea how anyone can use Destiny without any C/OC in attack, the damage is just so pitiful without points in attack
I use it without SP.
Mainly cause I'm lazy to level it. (and I hate the destiny based shit)
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No offense was intended in that post. I was "agitated" because I saw something that wasn't just slightly wrong, but completely off the mark, and then had to prove it. If you were offended, then I'm sorry.


I wanted you to show me a beam rifle with even lower damage than Destiny's.


Depends on firing speed. But too bad we have no frame data.



Well some people do care. Knowledge is part of what makes you better. You could be the best at aiming ever but you aren't using your full potential if you're using inefficient weapons.


Who knows? Maybe they are. But they won't know they're doing it wrong until they get some numbers!. Games develop when people work out the theory behind things, then apply.


**** yea we savvy.
you know what?

numbers dont mean that much
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Lol we already stopped this hours ago. We all good now.
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What S rank do you hate the most of each type?

Scissor: Strike Freedom
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Scissor: Sinanju in pubs. Everyone spams this and who has the most stunners wins.
Rock: Nataku. I really try to be careful not to give this d00d a chance to get a 1UP on me or my team gets screwed.
Paper: GNAD. Mobility while firing large beams and homings? Nowai!

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Sinanju / NT-D
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Whatever is from new webgacha/dream gacha.

So yeah, the only rocks actually seen commonly are IJ and DSHC.
Because every nataku get's pelted with like 3 different kinds of weapons whenever it is seen, that and people ZBS nataku users alot. (Or nataku just eats a SP like that)
Nobody gives a shit about GN arms cause both die easily to hardcounters.
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