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Yea well exaggeration confirmed: it takes 6 full 2-hit shots (12 hits total) to kill a BD2 at base >_>...
Then go att. Its your suit. Don't listen to someone who has played with both Att/Def GNDs.
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Just FYI, going Atk really shines when its at OC4.
 
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Can I have some opinions on how to play Neue Ziel properly?

So far my understanding is:

- NZ's a suit that's good for rushing tactic (with team of course)
- utilizing the anti-flinch function and wide melee, create opening for teammate, making enemy can't afford to melee me or my team, or else be melee'd by my long combo
- even though it has long range's weapon set, not suitable for turtling as being a huge target
- could die fast like a shit if team's not rushing or sticking together, a suit that heavily rely on good team and good teamwork

Are any of the above wrong? Do point out if so...I'd like some advice from KR players if possible...

btw I'm planning to customize it this way:
7 Agi from C1 to OC4
5 Spd from OC5 to OC6

Reasons for this are:

- default HP/Def is good enough
(default HP/Def is already both higher than a OC6 3 HP rest Def GN-E without Trans-AM)
- default Agi/Spd is the 2nd lowest among all S rank, Spd is important imo to rush faster and pursuit enemy
- not adding any attack is becuz just by using combo (w1x4 + w2x1 + w1x4) can basically kill most of the enemy, if not, near death as well
(and I think in rushing tactic I'm not really the damage dealer, more like I'm creating opening for damage dealer)

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Can I have some opinions on how to play Neue Ziel properly?

So far my understanding is:

- NZ's a suit that's good for rushing tactic (with team of course)
- utilizing the anti-flinch function and wide melee, create opening for teammate, making enemy can't afford to melee me or my team, or else be melee'd by my long combo
- even though it has long range's weapon set, not suitable for turtling as being a huge target
- could die fast like a shit if team's not rushing or sticking together, a suit that heavily rely on good team and good teamwork

Are any of the above wrong? Do point out if so...I'd like some advice from KR players if possible...

btw I'm planning to customize it this way:
7 Agi from C1 to OC4
5 Spd from OC5 to OC6

Reasons for this are:

- default HP/Def is good enough
(default HP/Def is already both higher than a OC6 3 HP rest Def GN-E without Trans-AM)
- default Agi/Spd is the 2nd lowest among all S rank, Spd is important imo to rush faster and pursuit enemy
- not adding any attack is becuz just by using combo (w1x4 + w2x1 + w1x4) can basically kill most of the enemy, if not, near death as well
(and I think in rushing tactic I'm not really the damage dealer, more like I'm creating opening for damage dealer)
For what you're focusing on, I'd go C3 Speed, then max out speed, the last point of OC5 and all of OC6 can be used in Agi, more overall stats.

Having higher speed means reaching enemy quicker, overwhelm them faster.

In THEORY, higher agi means you can get in and out with minimal pain. Hopefully.
 
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For what you're focusing on, I'd go C3 Speed, then max out speed, the last point of OC5 and all of OC6 can be used in Agi, more overall stats.

Having higher speed means reaching enemy quicker, overwhelm them faster.

In THEORY, higher agi means you can get in and out with minimal pain. Hopefully.
Higher Spd is a must for me, but Agi is still my priority right now.
Anyway, I have searched various threads and asked several people who played NZ.

Right now what I need isn't NZ's stat customization, what I need is how to play it right and be beneficial for team.
 
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Higher Spd is a must for me, but Agi is still my priority right now.
Anyway, I have searched various threads and asked several people who played NZ.

Right now what I need isn't NZ's stat customization, what I need is how to play it right and be beneficial for team.
i found NZ a kick ass, only with skills on, at least thats my opinion, but i would still go for C Hp oc Def coz of beam Sp and for being a bigass, remember Tw only turtle, never follow, even knowing u have a huge tanker and ur willing to give up ur life for killing whole enemy team
 
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i found NZ a kick ass, only with skills on, at least thats my opinion, but i would still go for C Hp oc Def coz of beam Sp and for being a bigass, remember Tw only turtle, never follow, even knowing u have a huge tanker and ur willing to give up ur life for killing whole enemy team
Well, skill 2 is good imo, but only a small bonus in my view.

And I don't think relying on beam SP is good...(even though it does hurt)
ppl also told me that it's important for NZ to learn of when to SP cancel, otherwise you'd eat shitload of sp...

Oh and right now I'm still testing out, so you'd still see me using NZ even in random room, but in the future, I'd only use this when I got reliable team that knows how to team with NZ =]
(like black room lol)

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Well, skill 2 is good imo, but only a small bonus in my view.

And I don't think relying on beam SP is good...(even though it does hurt)
ppl also told me that it's important for NZ to learn of when to SP cancel, otherwise you'd eat shitload of sp...

Oh and right now I'm still testing out, so you'd still see me using NZ even in random room, but in the future, I'd only use this when I got reliable team that knows how to team with NZ =]
(like black room lol)
when i said only when skills on i meant without custom stats xD lol
also a ton of destinies everywhere so ull eat a lot of beam spam and then MG'd to death xD
 
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when i said only when skills on i meant without custom stats xD lol
also a ton of destinies everywhere so ull eat a lot of beam spam and then MG'd to death xD
ya I can imagine that...in fact I already ate a few lol
can't help with the big body...

well, whether or not NZ is good or bad, I have decided to play it, so any sort of advice is fine
 
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Go range most of the time. If you see people astray go melee them. They won't last long unless they have sp.
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Go range most of the time. If you see people astray go melee them. They won't last long unless they have sp.
You sure? cuz its range weapon's ammo can go down pretty fast and not reloading fast enough (especially w1 on R mode)

I only do what you said above when my team's not rushing or not sticking together...
 
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You shouldn't really use the quad beam IMO. Just use the knockdown beam and throw the funnel to create an opening...
Then when you got a chance (like what NuKira say), go in and melee it. If it run, just chase it. Eventually, if it doesn't have N-Jammer, it'll run out of boost.
 
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ya I can imagine that...in fact I already ate a few lol
can't help with the big body...

well, whether or not NZ is good or bad, I have decided to play it, so any sort of advice is fine
Oh yea i got to see you test your NZ. TBH I'm surprised NZ would need agi and spd, but with the right moves it could work.

Just wondering what you're going to do if I pull out GP03D >.> the missiles make I field pointless, and NZ doesn't really have physical projectiles. If you customize as said above you're probably going to have to rush with team, since so many people can hit you from so many different areas. (GP03D missile pods)
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Oh yea i got to see you test your NZ. TBH I'm surprised NZ would need agi and spd, but with the right moves it could work.
Most ppl don't go this build I think, I think I see most ppl do full Atk, few do 3 HP rest Def...going Agi/Spd is just my personal reference on almost all suits I play.

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Just wondering what you're going to do if I pull out GP03D >.> the missiles make I field pointless, and NZ doesn't really have physical projectiles. If you customize as said above you're probably going to have to rush with team, since so many people can hit you from so many different areas. (GP03D missile pods)
ya, I do have a bit of problem when facing GP03D...
if I turtle, my attack's doing petty damage on it, and it can spam missiles at me...

so far at such situation, what I do are:

- trying to get out of GP03D's firing range and aim for other enemy, if not protected by GP03D
- if they all stick together, I'd go up rushing and hope someone would follow me...
 
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You could always stay ranged until you have your spec then just unload it onto GP03D and then run like hell away from it lol. Or you can just use items like teleport...its useful and theres a reason why you can use items... its not cheap.
 
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i remember 1 of the testing results posted here says agility gives slightly more in custom points than OC ....

lots of players don't know this and tell people to go custom speed first
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lots of players don't know this and tell people to go custom speed first
It applies for speed as well.
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Neue Ziel really is a distraction suit, IMO.

Due to it's rather large size, NZ always becomes the center of attention for the enemy team. I mean hey, bigass green bug thing! Gotta shoot it!

So what you should be prepared to do is primarily soak damage. Of course, this doesn't mean that you can go over and dish some out either, but thats really personal choice. Now to do some linking to other games I've played.

On another game called ToP, there was a class that specialised in tanking damage. These guys would spend their entire lifetimes aggro-ing mobs and soaking hits whilst the hard hitting (but fragile) guys would go about destroying everything. Likewise with Fiesta. The warriors would go aggro mobs, soaking damage (killing a few every now and then), whilst the mages would go about blitzing those assorted thingies with hard hitting magic.

So, what I'm saying is that NZ would be better off going forward to lure people's attention and SPs (or even better, the actual people) to itself, allowing for the more fragile, hard hitting guys to have an easier task of clearing up the opponents. NZ is well equipped to do the job, having rather high HP/DEF base stats, antiflinch and even a team buff that makes hard hitters hit harder.

Of course, its not like this is the only way NZ can be utilised, its really all up to player choice in the end. But I'm just saying.

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or you could custom agi and oc attack like me XD

those are the 2 combinations i considered when i was in your situation
 

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