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Where's Harute, then?

Harute doesn't seem necessarily too strong or too weak. He's in the normal area?
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Where's Harute, then?

Harute doesn't seem necessarily too strong or too weak. He's in the normal area?
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So, based on the thread that went out of topic.

I'm still curious of which is a better DPS suit, Freedom or 00Q.

Please do share your opinions here, be it missions or pvp, anything related to the said suits.

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freedom has better burst damage
00Q can deal much more damage over time
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Freedom = Railgun + Rifle
00Q = mode 2 Fat beam + mode 1 rifle (+ mode 2 huge slash if possible)

Now you're the one not reading properly.

On the topic, I'm counting on Freedom being SS Meteor's key unit. So talking about how awesome Freedom is, is relevant to this thread.
You can't count switching weapons in a single mode and compare it with something that requires changing modes to use alternative weapons, that causes time lag. The time Freedom takes to empty out all its ammo probably will be faster than a 00 qan[t] who has to use up all of mode 2 beam rifle then switch to mode 1 and use sword bits along with beam rifle. The R transformation causes atleast close to 1 second or longer waiting time for people that live far from the server, so you didn't factor that in.

I doubt if you use up all the ammo on each mode on a boss shows how it can dps faster than a suit that already has all its weapons in a mode. If your dead, tell me how you're going to dps when you died and stare blankly at the screen.

Calm down, I'm not arguing with you. I was just trying to say your comparison in dps is flawed.

Well moving this to the S rank discussion.
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Actually, the 100% guarenteedthing means that Freedom will have to land both rifle and railguns.

00Q can just blast a hole out of X amunt of people with just one fat beam. You don't shoot w2 in each mode alternatingly, you use all the ammo on mode 2 (main damage dealing mode) and switch to mode 1, use sword bits and rifle to wait until ammo replenishes so you're not a sitting duck with no ammo.

If you miss then damage is obviously zero... 00Q can do more consistent damage.
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His tests are in missions...lol

Wait, can Freedom Qantize? No? Does it have homing sword bits? No. Does it have fat beam? No. Does it have massive dps single swing to kill a HAC EW with both skills in one hit? No.

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His tests are in missions...lol

Wait, can Freedom Qantize? No? Does it have homing sword bits? No. Does it have fat beam? No. Does it have massive dps single swing to kill a HAC EW with both skills in one hit? No.

End of story.
Just a minute. He never claimed Freedom was a better suit than 00Q. Just that it's DPS was higher (firing on a static pyscho in mission).
 
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He specifically stated that Freedom has more dps than 00Q could ever achieve.

But here's the thing, basing this off on a boss that hardly moves doesn't help at all. Pvp no one is going to be standing there and shooting, unless you're in noob channel. They will be using cover, flying around, flanking, etc.

Freedom, according to him, has a higher dps because of the damage the rifle + railguns combo. You have the possibility of missing either the rifle or half of the railgun.

00Q, having a retardedly power fat beam (which was later stolen by X-3, that bish!) only needs to shoot once. Shooting once definitely has a higher chance of hitting than shooting 2 weapons.

And butthurt bngfegger? I'm trying to say you're wrong. A teacher explains how you did a question wrong, so he's butthurt?
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He specifically stated that Freedom has more dps than 00Q could ever achieve.

But here's the thing, basing this off on a boss that hardly moves doesn't help at all. Pvp no one is going to be standing there and shooting, unless you're in noob channel. They will be using cover, flying around, flanking, etc.

Freedom, according to him, has a higher dps because of the damage the rifle + railguns combo. You have the possibility of missing either the rifle or half of the railgun.

00Q, having a retardedly power fat beam (which was later stolen by X-3, that bish!) only needs to shoot once. Shooting once definitely has a higher chance of hitting than shooting 2 weapons.

And butthurt bngfegger? I'm trying to say you're wrong. A teacher explains how you did a question wrong, so he's butthurt?

Whoa. DOWN BNG. DOWN. I said the exact same thing to him in the other thread already.

I actually wanted to avoid this but since he says this community is filled with trolls...

I don't presume to know what your experience level is, tamerchris. But a lot of the posters here have been playing the game a long time and they know it pretty well.

Not that we aren't open to different opinions but most of the time, the different opinions and the evidence (should they have any) backing the opinions are flawed in some way shape or form.

The problem arises when 1) the people in this community are long void of much tact and manners when explaining you are wrong (Bng is actually one of the nice ones) and 2) The guys who have differing opinions stubbornly hold onto their own beliefs in the face of overwhelming evidence to contrary (because they lack the experience to know better and refuse to listen to those with the experience).

Thus the person with the different opinion is burnt at the stake, the community is seen as trolls and Bng bngfegs another S rank.

And the cycle of SDGO completes.
 
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*popcorn*

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thoughts on Unicorn NT-D and Sazabi?(probably the 2 S-ranks i want to make the most)
 
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Scissors Sazabi, good as ever.
Great weapon set, great skill set.
Only down side is pure range in the main mode and pure melee in the other.
Range SP with funnel up is badass.
 
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thoughts on Unicorn NT-D and Sazabi?(probably the 2 S-ranks i want to make the most)
Both are very impressive suits in their own right

Sazabi is more of a purist. Having ranged only in one mode and melee only in another so it takes some getting used too. Ranged mode is very good with the beam shot rifle having beam zook range and properties, no to mention the retardedly fast fire rate even without red comet. Grenades fire equally fast and are your super effective way of dealing with I fields. Funnels are good obviously since it has enhanced funnels. Melee mode is good enough for self protection but not for rushing(youre a scissor anyway). W1 has a very good range but cancels rather sluggishly. W2 enables you to chain the notorious 11 hit combo which is awesome. And skill 2 lets you SP bomb like a boss.


NT-D is a very well balanced suit that does well at all ranges in both modes. Not to mention Veteran Ranger which makes you a pain to kill with melee. Normal mode has a decent tankiness to it with decent damage from beam magnum in long/mid range and vulcans in close range. Melee in this mode is very decent and cancels very well. In NT-D mode, you get a 5 hit melee, more atk and super high multipliers on both w2 and w3 in exchange for a marked decrease in defence so you need to be more cautious after skill activation. Ranged SP is also a nice bonus in this mode.
 
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Wrong quote is wrong.
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Imo, don't compare suits. You had to use it yourself to know whether you are a good fit for the suit ornot.

Personally, I think freedom deal more dps from my own experience of using both 00Q and freedom.
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Scissors Sazabi, good as ever.
Great weapon set, great skill set.
Only down side is pure range in the main mode and pure melee in the other.
Range SP with funnel up is badass.
sazabi, plain and average as ever
not bad overall
but not enough to let it survive in the meta
unless you have the skills of char himself

works darn good on paper though
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sazabi, plain and average as ever
not bad overall
but not enough to let it survive in the meta
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works darn good on paper though
Yeah, agree with this.
Its survivability in KR-meta is pretty darn slim compared to some of the other servers.
 
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Yeah, agree with this.
Its survivability in KR-meta is pretty darn slim compared to some of the other servers.
meh dont care, sazabi is awesome, thats all!

i'll use it even if its bottom tier, because CHARRRRRRRR

but whats the KR meta now o.o?
 
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meh dont care, sazabi is awesome, thats all!

i'll use it even if its bottom tier, because CHARRRRRRRR

but whats the KR meta now o.o?
you want CHARRRRRRRRRRRR use pazabi
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