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Ah I see. Thanks.

This thing is misleading. >_>!
Reading and checking the skill page on wiki is really hard isn't it...
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I did. I find the auto lockon jammer, the description, and the image misleading.
 
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please refrain from generalizing
all these facts are actually false because different MS have different stats
F91 does not take 50%, i am sure of that even with skills or what not

its not really weak. its not a up in the front or 1v1 MS. Its a support unit, basically not newbie friendly

the third weapon does not exactly do heavy damage because it often misses the target. it is required to stay still to use it, so its not popular amongst people.


in the future, to avoid such things, please refrain from generalize everything and do a little more research before posting
If not 50%, what about 40%? But you say that 3rd weapon doesn't do heavy damage because it misses often.

But when it does hit 100% as all crit? What happens can you explain? Or ANYONE care to explain?

I apologize for the generalization. However, I want an answer to this. or Lols?
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If not 50%, what about 40%? But you say that 3rd weapon doesn't do heavy damage because it misses often.

But when it does hit 100% as all crit? What happens can you explain? Or ANYONE care to explain?

I apologize for the generalization. However, I want an answer to this. or Lols?
Don't make up random numbers.

But either way, from what I've seen of Heavyarms Kai so far, it isn't that strong. Doing 40 or even 50% against F91 is very unlikely.
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Just wondering, is the A rank Heavyarm Kai's weapon 3 (the MG) like the one with Cgue's weapon 3? Or like Gouf Custom's Weapon 3?

Both Cgue and Gouf's weapon 3 are MG, but the difference is that Cgue's MG force you to clear a whole round and hold still at your shoot position at that time, while Gouf's MG is kinda like what you guys have been discussing: Easy to miss, need to stay still to fire all shot.
(what I experienced with Gouf is that moving + weapon 3 MG = shoot very little bullet out instead of clearing round)

I know my description is kinda confusing...but I really don't know how to explain it D:
 
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Don't make up random numbers.

But either way, from what I've seen of Heavyarms Kai so far, it isn't that strong. Doing 40 or even 50% against F91 is very unlikely.
I am tired of the make up random number talk

here is the original post i have seen from ACE Union Guild AKA PerfectSky(I am pretty sure they are in the previous Korean Guild Battles rankings)



Again I DO NOT WANT AN UNLIKELY.

I want an tested constructive answer. Thank you for your reply.

If you find me to be too stubborn on this, I apologize, but something really bugs me. But if you find an answer and cannot reply to me, that is fine too. I like silent ^_^

But I find these impossible, not likely, meaning that it is "possible" But I am too confident in the MS that it will not take such direct damage from Heavy Arm Kai because it can't do XYZ @_@ really really means that you don't really know about the strengths and weakness of the MS themselves.
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I am tired of the make up random number talk

here is the original post i have seen from ACE Union Guild AKA PerfectSky(I am pretty sure they are in the previous Korean Guild Battles rankings)

Again I DO NOT WANT AN UNLIKELY.

I want an tested constructive answer. Thank you for your reply.

If you find me to be too stubborn on this, I apologize, but something really bugs me.
Sounding a little demanding there weiss.

I can only give you uncertain qualitative assumptions since I don't actually have my own Heavyarms Kai. But speaking from experience of similar weapons (Hyper Shining's vulcans and CGue's chain gun, both of which I've used), they do not deal too much damage. A full chain gun from CGue hit does about 2.5 bursts of its main machinegun. That will never do something even close to 40% damage to anything of a higher rank.
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I am tired of the make up random number talk

here is the original post i have seen from ACE Union Guild AKA PerfectSky(I am pretty sure they are in the previous Korean Guild Battles rankings)



Again I DO NOT WANT AN UNLIKELY.

I want an tested constructive answer. Thank you for your reply.

If you find me to be too stubborn on this, I apologize, but something really bugs me. But if you find an answer and cannot reply to me, that is fine too. I like silent ^_^

But I find these impossible, not likely, meaning that it is "possible" But I am too confident in the MS that it will not take such direct damage from Heavy Arm Kai because it can't do XYZ @_@ really really means that you don't really know about the strengths and weakness of the MS themselves.
um weis, I saw that post too, but all the fact of this killing what rank MS or hit how much % dmg is only from 1 man's mouth. He might be part of ACE, but there's only talk and no actually test result...so...need more testing before jumping to conclusion? @_@
 
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Sounding a little demanding there weiss.

I can only give you uncertain qualitative assumptions since I don't actually have my own Heavyarms Kai. But speaking from experience of similar weapons (Hyper Shining's vulcans and CGue's chain gun, both of which I've used), they do not deal too much damage. A full chain gun from CGue hit does about 2.5 bursts of its main machinegun. That will never do something even close to 40% damage to anything of a higher rank.
sorry for the crazy demand X_x

but shining isn't a specialized MS in shooting. those vulcans aren't the size of the chest vulcan heavy arm Kai can pull off. Cgue is only a B rank with only 1 vulcan @_@

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sorry for the crazy demand X_x

but shining isn't a specialized MS in shooting. those vulcans aren't the size of the chest vulcan heavy arm Kai can pull off. Cgue is only a B rank with only 1 vulcan @_@
Double the amount of ammo does not necessarily mean double the amount of damage.

Weapons of similar types usually do similar damages. For example, Serpent has double gatlings but it's still very very weak. It may even be slightly weaker than other C rank machinegun suits.

I used CGue and Hyper Shining as examples because they're the same kinds of one-use gatling/vulcan/machineguns that makes you unable to move and stay frozen in the air.
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I just can't accept the reason that an A rank with beam gallating as specialty would deal crappy damage.
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I just can't accept the reason that an A rank with beam gallating as specialty would deal crappy damage.
The B Rank Heavyarms is very weak compared to other B rank MG suits. Most of us were very disappointed it when it was first released. Similarly, you would expect God Gundam's God Typhoon to do massive damage, but I was sorely disappointed with its low damage and slow execution.
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Oh wells whenever i get an Heavy Arm Kai i'll test it someday.

At the mean time, waits for new gacha stuff X_x
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Another one...actually I just remembered it today, forgot to put it on the list before Orz

#4 gonna be a heck of Stone-type MS...in the water~
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2 good skills (check wiki), double-shot beamcannon, a 1+3 combo and can also prevent other melee-ing you (weapon 3 = spin attack); the only downside is really just that it's so great only in water...
 
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if i remember correctly the other MS with spin attack is Raider 8D and that one is great for immediate assault against mostly scissors...

Zgok E can combo 1+3 +SP lols hax
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I'm looking forward to the new s rank and capsule set 37.

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I am obviously looking forward to heavyarms.
The A rank would be nice, but thats gonna be a while.
Anyone have any idea when capsule 20 is out for TW?

Seeing as KR just brought out S rank Nataku, I hope they further the endless waltz selection with Heavyarms Custom S rank
 
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I'm also looking forward to SS rank Hyper God, Strike Freedom, Heavy Arms Custom Kai, DeathScythe Hell Custom, and Infinite Justice.
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I'm looking forward to anything with Char's custom, especially Char's custom commander ZakuII(If it ever comes out). 3 times stronger than normal ZakuII >_>
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