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generally slow = bad ofc but faster doesnt mean broken



in melee rooms , rock or paper doesnt matter , someone uses seravee , sazabi sr , sinanju and many other suits , i can kill The-o or sinanju with my seravee or super gundam it takes me to this conclusion ->

the only thing makes you win is : how good you play , yes so true
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generally slow = bad ofc but faster doesnt mean broken



in melee rooms , rock or paper doesnt matter , someone uses seravee , sazabi sr , sinanju and many other suits , i can kill The-o or sinanju with my seravee or super gundam it takes me to this conclusion ->

the only thing makes you win is : how good you play , yes so true
Of course, everything narrows down to your personal skill...

but if you're just comparing raw stats and abilities of suits... suits with fast melee can dish out damage quicker and run faster since fast melee cancel is usually a 2 in 1 package with fast melee speed.

It's like asking why Sword Calamity is one of the best melee suits out there...
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what's so broken about that ? it's merely a case of better performance to me

for example what if SRC has 50% more attack speed ? it's still nothing close to broken

and dont get me wrong for flaming or something , just some discussions here
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what's so broken about that ? it's merely a case of better performance to me

for example what if SRC has 50% more attack speed ? it's still nothing close to broken

and dont get me wrong for flaming or something , just some discussions here
Exactly what I had in mind . Good job Set
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what's so broken about that ? it's merely a case of better performance to me

for example what if SRC has 50% more attack speed ? it's still nothing close to broken

and dont get me wrong for flaming or something , just some discussions here
I think the one way to make that stupidly op is if the melee was zbs and chained as hard as ds ew.
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low quality vid SS Unicorn Beam Gatling Gun


and... AR Exia Repair II


so....finally unicorn has its beam tonfa

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SS NTD is okay... But I'm joining the Bear's rage at Softmax when it comes to detail. In this case, WHEN WAS THE BMG ON THE LEFT SIDE?! But other than that, looks like a half decent shooter rock.

AR Exia is just WTF... I am so dissapointed on what they did with it I cannot describe it. They copy and paste the weapons, give it's dash to to the SP... Just fail. I'm proceeding with capping my Lucas E.
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I`m dissapointed in both Exia and the Unicorn :/...
 
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SS NTD is okay... But I'm joining the Bear's rage at Softmax when it comes to detail. In this case, WHEN WAS THE BMG ON THE LEFT SIDE?! But other than that, looks like a half decent shooter rock.

AR Exia is just WTF... I am so dissapointed on what they did with it I cannot describe it. They copy and paste the weapons, give it's dash to to the SP... Just fail. I'm proceeding with capping my Lucas E.
The BMG was sticked to the shield . Man it feels like Banshee with better ranged options .......... And oh my gosh Exia ............. What on earth man ......................... At least it has high agi and reload ...
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Well, it seems that Exia sucks




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SS Unicorn's mode 2 BMG looks like its screaming for a nerf. Dat damage to scissors lol.

Otherwise, it looks kind of ... underwhelming for an SS rank. Where'z da oomph man.
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Seriously guys? What did you expect from both suits?

It was already stated speculated that AR Exia would be limited and what more can you do with Unicorn unless you give it a huge moveset? That being said Unicorn looks insane to me and while AR Exia is basic, but you can't go wrong with that moveset.

Edit: On second thought they could have just made FA Unicorn as the SS, or a green psychoframe Unicorn in general instead of this.

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Exia R2 is just Exia without TransAm or crit Melee.

Unicorn is insane. Attack up + Beam gatlings ohmahgawd
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Yeah putting aside it's cool as heck and has a super awesome special animation

Also you can't go wrong with Reload Up
 
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actually reload up is broken on units with gay tier weapons, when you have regular beam rifles and non homings daggers it becomes quite useless since those types of weapons are either fast reload or have huge ammo.

on the melee discussion, i kind of support what bng422 said, if giving X unit a good melee doesnt broke the unit, it does certainly help, reason why rocks are extint is because they got their melee stolen by scissors and papers, why would you want a good melee when you can have both good melee and ranged
 
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what's so broken about that ? it's merely a case of better performance to me

for example what if SRC has 50% more attack speed ? it's still nothing close to broken

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Nah, no flaming at all, just a regular discussion.

Maybe change the word from broken to something else... Imbalanced?

Let's look at AS Strike Noir. A scissors with high dps AND a top tier rock-style melee? So top tier that it can out melee other rocks with ease? That's pretty broken to me... Maybe your definition of broken is different than mine (opinions, opinions), but when you're a rock and you get outmeleed hard by a scissors... It breaks the game balance. Same thing for the Harrison F91 mode 2 and a paper like Reborns.

Anyways, we should continue somewhere else to avoid derailing.
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And god daeyum you people are underestimating SS Unicorn and Exia Repair II.

SS Unicorn has the BEST bmg in the entire game period. High dps, decent reload, and super fast shooting / delay between shots. The 3 ammo magnum will proabably be like X3 and Fullcloth, doing quite high damage. And one more thing: it's MOBILE. Beats Fullcloth in that aspect already.

Exia Repair II. Read what I typed above the line. Exactly the same deal with AS Strike Noir, maybe even better. A scissors with 5 hit melee and ridiculous damage. Who needs a rock now... Not to mention it can hold the line pretty well too. It's like Softmax is pushing things to the extreme with RPS since they're taking it out.
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Seriously guys? What did you expect from both suits?

It was already stated speculated that AR Exia would be limited and what more can you do with Unicorn unless you give it a huge moveset? That being said Unicorn looks insane to me and while AR Exia is basic, but you can't go wrong with that moveset.

Edit: On second thought they could have just made FA Unicorn as the SS, or a green psychoframe Unicorn in general instead of this.
I think FA Unicorn would be SR.

Yeah, Softmax'd.
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The BMG was sticked to the shield . Man it feels like Banshee with better ranged options .......... And oh my gosh Exia ............. What on earth man ......................... At least it has high agi and reload ...
Why is that SS even rock, that looks like V2A tier now.

Exia R2 is just sad, it's like Softmax had the budget of SEED Destiny to make that suit.
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I think FA Unicorn would be SR.

Yeah, Softmax'd.
Yeah but it'd make sense to make FA the SS, and Gatling the SR as XR ranks are usually the variants, and SS ranks the improved versions.

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Why is that SS even rock, that looks like V2A tier now.
I didn't even know it was rock until someone told me. Then I had to double check.

Edit: Oh wait I just saw Bng's post and now I JUST realized that Exia was a scissor too. This patch is weird.
 

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