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Obviously I thought "slot extenders" = Custom Slot Extenders.

Did I really have to point that out?
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The hate for OGP and SDGONA saddens me greatly....

OGP is trying to balance content releases with player expectations and knowledge of what's to come.

People feel some things are being released too fast, some too slow.

They're trying some things to see if it helps (everyone getting exp in beginner channel) and making changes for things that don't seem to work (removing said exp).

Are they Korea or Taiwan? No. Are they perfect? No, but they're responsive to their community. They're TRYING, and I give them a lot of credit for that.

I know I stand a chance of being heard in SDGONA. In Korea or Taiwan? I'd probably get banned.



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> Reason why the game is going further downward into the toilet.
> OGP fixes it now of all times.

-facepalm-
Is the criticism that they allowed everyone in the Beginner Channel (because of lack of Expert level player base) or that, now that they've built up the player base a bit more, they're now trying to balance things out again by pushing Experts back into their channel, like EVERY OTHER VERSION does?

I hear your hate - I just don't see your point.



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Still don't get why you can only get 1 custom slot extender from a gashapon that costs 43 astros.

Do they not realise how inexpensive extenders really are? Hell you even get one for free from dailies...

$2.50 USD for 1 slot extender in NA... I can get almost 30 if I spend $2.50 USD in KR.
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Compare 10 for an extender to $2.50 for an extender.
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herp derp 25 extenders.
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Obviously I thought "slot extenders" = Custom Slot Extenders.

Did I really have to point that out?
Yes, their item names and translations could still use some work. However, I think you see the real items offered (25 Custom Capsule Machine Slot Expanders or one Hanger Expansion) for $2.15 (43 astros X $.05 / astro) isn't a bad deal.



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Colony Dock is one of the most hated stages in the game. Good luck trying to be happy when you dash-pad right into enemy territory...

Only SEA and JP Servers offer C4 S Ranks, yet you seem to want us to infer that every foreign server milks like this...
We're happy for any new content. My son and I actually enjoy Colony Dock - the vertical factor makes the map a unique battlefield. I dislike Cyclops, E-Gate and Onogoro Island much more than Colony Dock.

Re: Milking - I've spent thousands of dollars on SDGOTW. And I'm WELL AWARE of how hard TW can milk their users. But I think Wabbit's comment was directed more specifically at SEA's recent C4 S-ranks, rather than at every other server in existence.



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iirc MCA=BAN thread was popular a while back.
It wasn't MCA that would net a ban, but SS instead (if it could ever be proven).



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No, they don't HAVE to, but they feel that they do. Plus the cover-up of "There's not enough people in Ex Server" doesn't work now, so they have no choice but to get angry.

Gold SUMO is getting a lukewarm reception... but Chaos and Gouf are popular...
Yeah, some "noob-stompers" and "easy-kill-getters" are complaining on the forums quite a bit. I'm hoping the Expert Channel will have the population it needs to sustain around the clock play.

Others are upset because of the current "Bingo" event going on. The crux of the event is that you have to play 5 DeathMatches in a day to get a "shield". Being able to play in the Beginner Channel, where there's always plenty of rooms, meant that all the players would stand a chance of completing the event. Now, 2/3 of the way through, "Experts" are being shunted back to their channel, where open, unlocked rooms are much more scarce. That's causing a lot of uproar as well.

Many players are rabid to get their hands on the Gold Sumo - there's at least one thread specifically dedicated to qqing over players' efforts at trying to score one.

Chaos is being touted as being "overpowered" and "released way too early", where Gouf Ignited is being called weak and inferior to Gouf Custom.



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really whats the point in making channels for experts when they are using the beginners channel

guess they all want easy wins.....
Easy wins, noob-stomping, "Bingo shields", unlocked rooms during "non-peak hours", playing with lower ranked friends - these are all reasons for the desire for continued Exp from the beginner's channel.



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Cuz NA is separated into Chinese players and everyone else.

Everyone else, regardless of user ranks, play in Beginner Channel.

herp derp.


edit: is Harry Ord sumo even that good? It looks mediocre at best to me.
...wow. This borderline bigotry is very disturbing. Better check my ethnicity when I get home to see what channel Pho will allow me in.

re: Gold Sumo - it's the "new big thing". W2 reload is SLOW. W1 seems to attack pretty fast. W3's dash attack seems pretty effective. However, there's probably a lot of other suits available in KR and TW that could stomp it. But right now in SDGONA, it's IFBD is drawing a LOT of interest.



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Shitty patch is to be expected, we're dealing with ogp here.
I don't see what's so wrong with the patch.
There's nothing in it that makes me go, "OMG, this is the best thang evah!!!", but I've seen worse.

They've released a new map, added two more capsule machines, added two more s-ranks, added some interesting events, updated their web gashapon, added new units to their Custom Capsule Machine, added Packages for the first time (!), more paints, stickers, MS rentals.

They could have release some BP's buildable with available units, put Hellion in the CCM or shop to fix the AS Kyrios BP problem, made a note about whether 2X weekends would be included this month, made a note about the free one day rentals of next month's S-ranks.

It's not a perfect, "OGP did everything right" patch, but I'd hardly call it shitty.



Well, I'm pretty sure my post will fall on deaf ears, with plenty of tl;dr's and "wall of text" remarks. Probably even some OGP-lover or various other inflammatory responses.

I just don't remember the board being so dang mean before SDGONA came out.

OGP didn't force the IP bans. Softmax licensed their games to other regions and their other licensees had to respect and abide by their agreements with Softmax to not infringe on each other's territories.

That doesn't make OGP the bad guy. Their just trying to bring a great game on-shore, and I applaud them for that.


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read all of it and i want to ask you this

would you like to play in NA or TW with your all pals and new peeps from ggftw??
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read all of it and i want to ask you this

would you like to play in NA or TW with your all pals and new peeps from ggftw??
I know my answer: NA.

Reasoning:
Playerbase that speaks English.
Playerbase that didn't fail English class.
Better connection for me.
Less Cash-obsessed events. Even if they are a tier worse overall, they are still events.
Staff that will actually hear my complaints and help out. Or rather can.


It's growing still, the community has a whiles to go until they accept the truth on many parts of NA...
 
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I know my answer: NA.

Reasoning:
Playerbase that speaks English.
Playerbase that didn't fail English class.
Better connection for me.
Less Cash-obsessed events. Even if they are a tier worse overall, they are still events.
Staff that will actually hear my complaints and help out. Or rather can.


It's growing still, the community has a whiles to go until they accept the truth on many parts of NA...
well if you feel this way, have fun in NA.

and not everyone is from NA and have English as there native language.....so you can't say that they have failed English class....
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Spoiler!


So... how about them new 2500 kill events?
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I know my answer: NA.

Reasoning:
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Playerbase that didn't fail English class.
Better connection for me.
Less Cash-obsessed events. Even if they are a tier worse overall, they are still events.
Staff that will actually hear my complaints and help out. Or rather can.


It's growing still, the community has a whiles to go until they accept the truth on many parts of NA...
At least Wasabii doesn't release suits that are way ahead of schedule and breaking the meta.

Doesn't help the playerbase if they release high tier suits and beginners rush to get them; they miss out on basic skills (like taking cover... You would be surprised with how many players just stand there in the opening).

Oh, and I read on the forum that people spent hundreds of dollars just for a Chaos. Sure, there's less cash events but people roll like mad for an A rank that is months ahead of schedule.
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At least Wasabii doesn't release suits that are way ahead of schedule and breaking the meta.

Doesn't help the playerbase if they release high tier suits and beginners rush to get them; they miss out on basic skills (like taking cover... You would be surprised with how many players just stand there in the opening shooting.).
JP and C4 Dozle. SEA and Noir and Wing EW. This argument's a case of calling out the Pot while forgetting the Kettle.

Point is that only Wasabii's done it right. NO point arguing about that while praising ANY other server as Holy.

Edit: I am not saying NA's perfect. It's flawed as Hell. But every server is. TW took -forever- to first release S-Ranks for example).

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So... how about them new 2500 kill events?
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JP and C4 Dozle. SEA and Noir and Wing EW. This argument's a case of calling out the Pot while forgetting the Kettle.

Point is that only Wasabii's done it right. NO point arguing about that while praising ANY other server as Holy.

Edit: I am not saying NA's perfect. It's flawed as Hell. But every server is. TW took -forever- to first release S-Ranks for example).
I acknowledge that none of the servers are perfect too. Just that in my eyes, I see NA and SEA being more money hungry than other servers.

TW is similar, but it's not a pay-to-win server (which NA and SEA is in my eyes).

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JP and C4 Dozle. SEA and Noir and Wing EW. This argument's a case of calling out the Pot while forgetting the Kettle.

Point is that only Wasabii's done it right. NO point arguing about that while praising ANY other server as Holy.

Edit: I am not saying NA's perfect. It's flawed as Hell. But every server is. TW took -forever- to first release S-Ranks for example).
Note that Noir and Wing EW in sea are both obtainable wiithout spending a single cent. And I do not see how having C4 A ranks in a cash only webcap is not "cash-obessed". TW did in fact release S ranks slower, but only because they weren't as far behind to KR compared to the never servers to begin with. Besides, speedy S rank releases breed suit reiance after all. So its a bad thing in general.
 
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In comparison with NA and SEA, makes me wonder why Thailand was so successful.

I would refute by saying NA automatically leaped into the "lolLetsReleaseSuitsThatArentC4InWebGachas" status, but then some person from NA will try to cover this up with a black and white answer.
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I admit, they do release C4s, but thankfully it hasn't had an extremely detrimental effect. To my knowledge only Noir's been released like that on the detrimental end, and for all it's worth it was a 1 time thing, and resulted in barely anything bad. New ones are all C3s unless they're A/s-Ranks. Which although powerful, at least isn't a nightmare waiting to happen

What it is is a minorly upgraded Noir that could be obtained through Custom-Point expansion (.6 in attack, which is a fairly marginal amount, or send it from 24.6 to over 24.9 in speed, as it would get it's Agi breakpoint in 1 C anyhow).

I do not deny they do bribe through these over-pointed units, but then again if these were things like HEAVY ARMS CUSTOM, or HWS, then I'd have a problem.

The early buffing is in issue, but then again we'd have people constantly moaning about the buffing.

I do not admit NA's perfect, but hey, which server was it that introduced us to C3 AR Ranks again? Oh right, TW. Still got that good ol AR The O hidden on my TW account... behind the ban, which I never cared to check to see if I could bypass...

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In comparison with NA and SEA, makes me wonder why Thailand was so successful.
I can answer that easy:

For GGftw: most of it's members seem to be, you guessed it, from the SEA area to begin with.

For generalization: the SEA area is closer to japan/kr, and hence more quickly picks up on Fads than America would tend to. That, or the Culture picks up Japanese/KR/Chinese/Etc cultures far more receptively than NA.

You assume because it -is- SEA that it recieves a better reception, you forget Topography and culture in that.

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which server was it that introduced us to C3 AR Ranks again? Oh right, TW.
Wrong , You can do that in KR too with MS slot releasers Stop presuming stuff that you don`t even know .
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I admit, they do release C4s, but thankfully it hasn't had an extremely detrimental effect. To my knowledge only Noir's been released like that on the detrimental end, and for all it's worth it was a 1 time thing, and resulted in barely anything bad. New ones are all C3s unless they're A/s-Ranks. Which although powerful, at least isn't a nightmare waiting to happen

What it is is a minorly upgraded Noir that could be obtained through Custom-Point expansion (.6 in attack, which is a fairly marginal amount, or send it from 24.6 to over 24.9 in speed, as it would get it's Agi breakpoint in 1 C anyhow).

I do not deny they do bribe through these over-pointed units, but then again if these were things like HEAVY ARMS CUSTOM, or HWS, then I'd have a problem.

The early buffing is in issue, but then again we'd have people constantly moaning about the buffing.

I do not admit NA's perfect, but hey, which server was it that introduced us to C3 AR Ranks again? Oh right, TW. Still got that good ol AR The O hidden on my TW account... behind the ban, which I never cared to check to see if I could bypass...



I can answer that easy:

For GGftw: most of it's members seem to be, you guessed it, from the SEA area to begin with.

For generalization: the SEA area is closer to japan/kr, and hence more quickly picks up on Fads than America would tend to. That, or the Culture picks up Japanese/KR/Chinese/Etc cultures far more receptively than NA.

You assume because it -is- SEA that it recieves a better reception, you forget Topography and culture in that.
No extreme detrimental effect....we all know why it hasn't... I'm gonna say what I've been saying in CC forums for the past whole week. Having an extra C point does not give you much of an edge vs. units of the same rank, but it does vs units with lower rank. I said this too many times to bother to elaborate, so you do the math. You are a super pro respectable blue star after all.

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Wrong , You can do that in KR too with MS slot releasers Stop presuming stuff that you don`t even know .
U wrong Hika, TW did do it first, but at least they did not take it to a whole new level and make them c4. Lets be grateful for that.

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I do not admit NA's perfect, but hey, which server was it that introduced us to C3 AR Ranks again? Oh right, TW. Still got that good ol AR The O hidden on my TW account... behind the ban, which I never cared to check to see if I could bypass...
Except that you can upgrade A/ARs to C3 in all the servers now. How is this a bad thing? You could just say TW just put things out ahead of time, even ahead of KR.
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Wrong , You can do that in KR too with MS slot releasers Stop presuming stuff that you don`t even know .
Custom Slot expanders didn't even come out until about a year ago.

TW introduced AR ranks years ago with their (free and coin-cost) webcapsules.

I did not presume a thing. You did however. Besides, please look at the word introduced. Which was the key word.

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You could just say TW just put things out ahead of time, even ahead of KR.
Who's to say KR won't do this too? I did, again as mentioned above, -emphasize- on the word "INTRODUCED".

Retroactive defense does not make what they did back then right either. NA isn't right now, TW was not right then.

Irony was though TW offered -free- C3 AR ranks, KR makes them cash only, but hey, not the point.

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Custom Slot expanders didn't even come out until about a year ago.

TW introduced AR ranks years ago with their (free and coin-cost) webcapsules.

I did not presume a thing. You did however. Besides, please look at the word introduced. Which was the key word.



Who's to say KR won't do this too?

Retroactive defense does not make what they did back then right either. NA isn't right now, TW was not right then.

Irony was though TW offered -free- C3 AR ranks, KR makes them cash only, but hey, not the point.
Its free in KR too....you can get extenders from mission/pvp rewards. Again.......do your homework
 
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-points to the current KR event-

Yeah, getting 360 upgrade kits for free is totally cash only.

360 can last you quite a bit.

TW gives out suits like mad, KR gives out items like hangars and extenders for special occasions. It's how different servers does things.

I haven't seen NA give out anything for free, but then again I don't hang out in NA at all so I dunno.
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-points to the current KR event-

Yeah, getting 360 upgrade kits for free is totally cash only.

360 can last you quite a bit.

TW gives out suits like mad, KR gives out items like hangars and extenders for special occasions. It's how different servers does things.

I haven't seen NA give out anything for free, but then again I don't hang out in NA at all so I dunno.
Tw spammed us with alot, i mean ALOT of items in the past.....I have like 300 ntp, 200 red teles, 200 scale downs and other crap. Now they just give us free suits. SEA gives out alot of freebies as well, but CC too dumb to listen to players and give us clan system. But hey, freebies, cmon.
 

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