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the problem with WZC is that there are other suits can perform the same role, if not better, while being able to perform other roles. and it only has ZERO system to distinguish itself
oh well, that's better than nothing
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the problem with WZC is that there are other suits can perform the same role, if not better, while being able to perform other roles. and it only has ZERO system to distinguish itself
oh well, that's better than nothing
I just think it's unfair that DX has much better HP and def....
Even high SP...
WZ doesn't have the same severity at all....
WZC is glass cannons of all glass cannons, soft as heck...
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I just think it's unfair that DX has much better HP and def....
Even high SP...
WZ doesn't have the same severity at all....
WZC is glass cannons of all glass cannons, soft as heck...
Not as glass cannon as Arios.

At least WZC has TBR mode. Arios has what? Suicide mode.


WZC does have faster attack speed at 50% which is great for killing stuff.
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TBR mode = no speed
At least arios has MA mode...
WZC's zero system can go down in like 2 shots.
Akatsuki shoots me in face one time = zero activates
Another akat shoots at same time = 10% hp left
random missiles hit me = dead.

Okay its not completely true but still its really soft...
With how TW S rooms work, I find no teamwork and only solo play, so I am basically in 3v1 / 2v1 situations.
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TBR mode = no speed
At least arios has MA mode...
WZC's zero system can go down in like 2 shots.
Akatsuki shoots me in face one time = zero activates
Another akat shoots at same time = 10% hp left
random missiles hit me = dead.

Okay its not completely true but still its really soft...
With how TW S rooms work, I find no teamwork and only solo play, so I am basically in 3v1 / 2v1 situations.
Arios.

DSHC w3's me once. I die.

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DSHC wep3 can be avoided. (I do it all the time, and punish their lowered def)
Trading shots with other people is something that you must do.
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dem WZC moaners should look at providence before it got it the le creuset skill
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dem WZC moaners should look at providence before it got it the le creuset skill
That's why I moan now.
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Ahaha, I laugh at Akatsuki when Zero activates and I vulcan their 30% glowing butt to kingdom come. That is.. if I can get close enough to vulcan and have enough cover to avoid W3.

Then C3 HP, OC5 SP, OC6 Def build in mode 1 = 1 SP finisher, blam dead.
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Ahaha, I laugh at Akatsuki when Zero activates and I vulcan their 30% glowing butt to kingdom come. That is.. if I can get close enough to vulcan and have enough cover to avoid W3.

Then C3 HP, OC5 SP, OC6 Def build in mode 1 = 1 SP finisher, blam dead.
Yata no Kagami activates at 40%, get it right.

If you vulcan them close, they'll just come and melee you.

What if they SP Cancel? Dem Akatsuki's with oc def build will own you.

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Still, if NTD's back were turned, WZC's TBR will still carve a humongous chunk out if its HP, especially with maxed attack in R mode and Sniper Precision, V-descend under cover and lol while the NTD tries to approach while the team's rocks are milling about.
We're talking about c hp oc atk build NTD right? c hp oc def build tickles it, what's your point.
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Yata no Kagami activates at 40%, get it right.

If you vulcan them close, they'll just come and melee you.

What if they SP Cancel? Dem Akatsuki's with oc def build will own you.
I don't have to worry 'bout that. That's where the spirit of teamwork goes in. Believe it or not, HK has some pretty good teamwork, even in random rooms. I know Yata no Kagami activates at 40%, but Akatsuki normally has 30% below HP in the later portions of the game. I could just SP at 70-50% with epic sp build, but where is the fun in that?

EDIT: And besides, Zero Custom has epic fast vulcans. It's hilarious really.
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I don't have to worry 'bout that. That's where the spirit of teamwork goes in. Believe it or not, HK has some pretty good teamwork, even in random rooms. I know Yata no Kagami activates at 40%, but Akatsuki normally has 30% below HP in the later portions of the game. I could just SP at 70-50% with epic sp build, but where is the fun in that?

EDIT: And besides, Zero Custom has epic fast vulcans. It's hilarious really.
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I thought percent should have been negative.
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I thought percent should have been negative.
Not all of them are hopeless, that's why.
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Not all of them are hopeless, that's why.
It's kind of dumb how most of the sinanju players I fought in TW don't purge and stay in mode 1 for a while.
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It's kind of dumb how most of the sinanju players I fought in TW don't purge and stay in mode 1 for a while.
There was one red star who used it so well...
He even purged and outmatched 2 rocks with it...
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It's kind of dumb how most of the sinanju players I fought in TW don't purge and stay in mode 1 for a while.
If you know how to use mode 1 then it's good weapon in hands of good player.
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Mode 1 has nothing but beam weapons, let's look at Akatsuki and Mobile Armours shall we?

We're talking about TW players here, the average ones that camp and don't cooperate well.
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We're talking about TW players here, the average ones that camp and don't cooperate well.
Ok with TW players i'm must admit that you are correct

But in KR as i said i used stun gun and beam in a much situations for example support or stun meleers killing my teammates and when i needed i purged to fight Akatsukis and MA's.

And his beam+stun can do high dmg for papers sometimes even 3-4 shots with crt is enough to kill.
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Ok with TW players i'm must admit that you are correct

But in KR as i said i used stun gun and beam in a much situations for example support or stun meleers killing my teammates and when i needed i purged to fight Akatsukis and MA's.

And his beam+stun can do high dmg for papers sometimes even 3-4 shots with crt is enough to kill.
I was talking mainly about TW, I know KR players are capable using Mode 1 to its potential.

I know sinanju's stun hurts because I used to have one that was full attack.
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