Should Spec Be Removed From The Game?

[Blizt]

Originally Posted by Crimsonred

I don't use SP in 1v1 cause it creates uber lag and also wastes time...
worst case scenario, both ppl are stuck in SP animation.
But SP in DM is not a crime, unless it's that worst case scenario.

In your case, it's understandable for one or both side to not use spec when one or both of you lag as hell...

But when there's no lag factor, even in 1v1, I still don't see anything wrong using it, unless the room title clearly forbid it.

Waste time? You can use it as a mean to stalk time...like during last 10 sec you make a comeback with spec, if you or your enemy got hit by it and lost...well, it's your/his own fault. Who told you not to be careful to the very last second when the counter hit zero?

Beside, every suit's spec's duration time is different, like B rank Gouf Custom or Perfect Zeong or Nu Gundam (range spec)...their spec duration are all AWFULLY SHORT...did they really waste much time at all? No.

[Kisaragi]

A spec's animation is only about 6 or 7 secs at most.

Its only a waste if its like 4 guys with 2-3 lives each using one spec just to end the game when the other guy had given up

[Crimsonred]

It seems like a cheap ass way to avoid a comeback....
SP + KD get up time = to around 10 seconds wasted and the SP user should have enough time to get away....
But I fight with people who can 1 mile meele/ antiflinch meele anyway so I really avoid it.
Since the SP will go like (it's happened a few times in DM from any ppl), he SP 1st, I use SP to cancel.
My invincibility is gone, he hits me.
Or, SP and hit but manages to boost for like 5 seconds then he uses SP.
I think it's more of server lag instead of personal lag....
Cause it is too common...
So yeah, blame wasabii.

[Bng422]

I have no problems relating to spec in any way in KR.

In TW, I have some bad lag with spec.

I also blame Wasabii.

EDIT: Actually, everything in general. R moding, funnel using, melee escaping, I have all those problems in TW but not in KR.

[Blizt]

Originally Posted by Crimsonred

It seems like a cheap ass way to avoid a comeback....

Like I said, who told you to relax when the counter haven't reached zero?

Whoever stayed serious til the end shall be the true winner~

I'm pretty sure all true veteran player, in a match after some time they should realize soon someone or a group of player will suddenly try to rain down spec on them.

Pro, predict and avoid them plus counter back.

Average ppl & noob, either predicted but failed to avoid them (might be skill problem or bad luck) or just simply clueless and got caught, oh yeah noob will probably start swearing like "FXXK YOU YOU CHEAP ASS USED SPEC!! NO SKILL!! NOOB!!"

Originally Posted by Crimsonred

SP + KD get up time = to around 10 seconds wasted and the SP user should have enough time to get away....
But I fight with people who can 1 mile meele/ antiflinch meele anyway so I really avoid it.
Since the SP will go like (it's happened a few times in DM from any ppl), he SP 1st, I use SP to cancel.
My invincibility is gone, he hits me.
Or, SP and hit but manages to boost for like 5 seconds then he uses SP.
I think it's more of server lag instead of personal lag....
Cause it is too common...
So yeah, blame wasabii.

I second the bold part

[Crimsonred]

Hide + range SP.
If you miss SP with that combo you fail...
I have no idea why people did that.
It was a 6v6 pts in gundam fight, one feg (sazabi with SP awaken) decided to do that and caught like 4 ppl and then gained 20 pts......
It was almost perfect team work, with 4 beam SPs on enemy side....
That's just cheap.
Not that I want it to be removed anyway.

[Blizt]

Originally Posted by Crimsonred

Hide + range SP.
If you miss SP with that combo you fail...

And then the next thing you know, a topic named: "Should Item (especially Hide) Be Removed From The Game?" will pop up hurr hurr~

[Crimsonred]

I think it had been asked xxx times already like
tele is hack
hide is cheap
SP down is feg
or something.

guh

[Leongz]

Originally Posted by BliztForever

Pro, predict and avoid them plus counter back.

Average ppl & noob, either predicted but failed to avoid them (might be skill problem or bad luck) or just simply clueless and got caught, oh yeah noob will probably start swearing like "FXXK YOU YOU CHEAP ASS USED SPEC!! NO SKILL!! NOOB!!"

^He speaks the truth !

[Kisaragi]

Originally Posted by BliztForever

And then the next thing you know, a topic named: "Should Item (especially Hide) Be Removed From The Game?" will pop up hurr hurr~

Black paint/navy blue in night maps

"Should paint be removed from the game?"

[LiLMewmew]

Ever watched SD Gundam Force? I think "spec" came from that anime.

[Retune]

Lulz. Too much kiting.

-SHOULD RANGE WEPS BE REMOVED FROM THE GAME?

[Crimsonred]

This has gotten old.

[Marisa]

Originally Posted by Crimsonred

I think it had been asked xxx times already like
tele is hack
hide is cheap
SP down is feg
or something.

guh

It's funny in KR tele and hide are VERY VERY COMMON.

SP Down became somewhat common after 00 Raiser came out.

I don't get why you guys can't deal with it.

[Crimsonred]

Cause TW ppl rarely use items.
It's only the hide + SP combo that I can't deal with usually.
rarely appears, but is irritating.

[Marisa]

Doesn't matter if it's not used that often in TW....Just learn to to deal with it. I don't care if someone spams red teleports. It's part of the game after all.

There are some good item combos actually.

AS Zeta + Invis
DSHC/DSH + Tele
GNAD + Invis (Lol using hide to sneak behind people and spam W2.)
GNAE Purge + Tele
Blitz + Invis/Tele

[Crimsonred]

You don't care because you spam it everytime
Not like I care about a teleport anyway, it's just them delaying the inevitable.
Aps1+ newtype pressure is just......
get close, KDed, orz.
Lets the Aps1 run away from being swarmed.

[Marisa]

Lol APSI with NTP. I need to fight/use that. Whoever thought of that combo is a genius.

Delaying the inevitable isn't correct sometimes. I used 3 teles to kite an F91 and DSHC with SF and won the battle. I also used it to singlehandly destroy a team of Hellion, BD3, BF2LR, and BD3 with a BD2. Won a 1 vs 2 and a 1 vs 4.

[Blizt]

Originally Posted by Ai

Doesn't matter if it's not used that often in TW....Just learn to to deal with it. I don't care if someone spams red teleports. It's part of the game after all.

There are some good item combos actually.

AS Zeta + Invis
DSHC/DSH + Tele
GNAD + Invis (Lol using hide to sneak behind people and spam W2.)
GNAE Purge + Tele
Blitz + Invis/Tele

Honestly, if you can learn to deal with Item, I don't understand why you can't deal with Spec...

I mean, if you can deal with it, you wouldn't make this thread in the first place.

[Crimsonred]

comebacks doesn't really mean much to me.... with items that is
Heck I came back with a amatu against 2 rocks and 1 scissor without items....
But I thought of the APS1 NTP thingy while I was bored.