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04-26-2011   #1 (permalink)
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So guys let's have a civil conversation and arguement about this.

Do you agree with the following topics?
  • Old S ranks are bad now?
  • Money breaks the game?
  • Items breaks the game?
  • Certain tactics break the game?
  • Black Rooms should be banned?
  • Rocks are too overpowered?
  • Not enough scissors?
  • Papers are more like rocks now?

Choose a topic and answer.

P.S This thread was made since "Quantinize" is gonna come out and most likely probably break the game.
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So guys let's have a civil conversation and arguement about this.

Do you agree with the following topics?
  • Old S ranks are bad now?
  • Money breaks the game?
  • Items breaks the game?
  • Certain tactics break the game?
  • Black Rooms should be banned?
  • Rocks are too overpowered?
  • Not enough scissors?
  • Papers are more like rocks now?

Choose a topic and answer.
[*]Old S ranks are bad now?
No[*]Money breaks the game?
No[*]Items breaks the game?
No[*]Certain tactics break the game?
No[*]Black Rooms should be banned?
No[*]Rocks are too overpowered?
No[*]Not enough scissors?
No[*]Papers are more like rocks now?
No
This thread is kinda useless so It should be closed
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* Old S ranks are bad now?
Ryuma and Freedom says no.

* Money breaks the game?
No. Unless someone using custom paints blinds you and you can't play.

* Items breaks the game?
If you don't expect it, your loss.

* Certain tactics break the game?
No. Just no. Tactics are meant to be that, a strategy. If they lose, they failed to counteract.

* Black Rooms should be banned?
Hell flying no. Anyone going into the room should know what they're dealing with.

* Rocks are too overpowered?
We've gone through this. No.

* Not enough scissors?
Not enough good scissors.

* Papers are more like rocks now?
Only S ranks. I don't see anything else like rocks.

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* Old S ranks are bad now?
Ryuma and Freedom says no. (Providence says yes,Freedom and Justice says no)

* Money breaks the game?
No. Unless someone using custom paints blinds you and you can't play.(It's needed in every kinda of online game because it needs the funds to keep running.)

* Items breaks the game?
If you don't expect it, your loss.

* Certain tactics break the game?
No. Just no. Tactics are meant to be that, a strategy. If they lose, they failed to counteract.

* Black Rooms should be banned?
Hell flying no. Anyone going into the room should know what they're dealing with.(Black rooms can be broken, I do that for fun)

* Rocks are too overpowered?
We've gone through this. No.

* Not enough scissors?
Not enough good scissors. (We need less generic moveset scissors)

* Papers are more like rocks now?
Only S ranks. I don't see anything else like rocks.

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-Old S ranks are bad-

Not really. Some old suits can still hold up against newer ones. Freedom and Justice serve that purpose well.

Its still inevitable that Netmarble is going to release suits that only get better. Like in shounen animes, if the main focus doesn't get stronger and more flashy, the entire thing goes downhill. People lose their interest. This goes without saying for how -meh- some suits came out, like 00. Only hardcore 00 fans and people hoping for 00R would get it.

So, I suppose that to make up for this, they're going to buff up the old suits, like they did with Justice, just to keep the balance in check. Hopefully they realise that if the don't the game will get screwed over.
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I just hope they give freedom its wing cannons, that would make my day.
And also do something about Provindence, it just must have something to make it unique instead of having a very standard funnel moveset.
 
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With creuset's hate, I guess it gets a little better now.

It was okay, it just had a terrible reload rate only fitting for an A rank. Which is why its so low in the S rank tier list.
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provi + sp card hurts alot more than you would expect, though that killer sp still cant really compensate for its usual mehness
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provi + sp card hurts alot more than you would expect, though that killer sp still cant really compensate for its usual mehness
SP is nothing if you miss.
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The Doggy serve it's purpose better than Providence
Imagine a max SP doggy with skill part sp ...
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Imagine a max SP doggy with skill part sp ...
Or Full SP Qub with Skill 2 and Skill Part Up... It would be hilarious!
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Or Full SP Qub with Skill 2 and Skill Part Up... It would be hilarious!
It's better with Sazabi.

Man were they pissed when I used full spec Sazabi. With SP ATK up.
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DX with an extra SP part
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I have a providence on Tw and I personally felt like you should just abuse it's dragoons since they actually do pretty good dmg, other than that.... just fly around and shoot i guess...
 
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Old S ranks are bad now?
Not true, Freedom and WZC break this myth.

Money breaks the game?
I say yes and no, money gets you the units fast probably, but it will bore you since you took less effort to get the unit. No as in money is an option not a necessity.

Items breaks the game?
Who cares about items, I speced someone while they used teleport, making them waste tele, how hilarious is that?

Certain tactics break the game?
Tactics are strategies. Obviously if they can't do anything against you, they must have bad coordination.

Black Rooms should be banned?
I don't even know why is this question here.

Rocks are too overpowered?
No, I ate God with Arios.

Not enough scissors?
(Looks through S,A,B,C) Not really, but it gets repetitive.

Papers are more like rocks now?
I agree with Shift, I've seen S used more like rocks, but not any other rank.
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I feel this game lacks modes, I am hoping with put in a mode that has no items, no oc, no skill parts, and NO lockon.
 
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Oooooh. Spoken like a true FPS gamer, huh

Regardless, I agree with that. Point/DM/BS is a bit limited.
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I feel this game lacks modes, I am hoping with put in a mode that has no items, no oc, no skill parts, and NO lockon.
No lockon: play in the forest, that's the closest
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I agree there should be a button to toggle of auto locking.

Ive seen some people have their middle finger glued to the right click... And fail to shoot a guy thats moving.
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I agree with the no auto lock part. wish it gets removed.
If auto lock gets removed then long range beam cannons
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