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02-08-2012   #9841 (permalink)
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Seriously, I have no clue how you can say the delay sucks.

Gouf's w2 is Strike Noir's double pistols shot TWICE. That delay between the 2 shots is so minimal you have to suck some serious shit to miss the next 2. If you think the delay for Gouf's w2 is so horrid then BMG's delay between each triple burst must be bad in your eyes as well.

And comparing it to Strike Noir is a no? Make your sentences make sense please. They both have similar weapons. One is a B rank and one is a AR rank. Of course they're different, but they have similar weapons that can be played the same style.
I dont see how you dont understand that its slow. The short delay is about the same delay as firing another barrage with a normal bmg. I'd say its quite annoying to have that delay in the middle of your barrage, as well as afterwards. Normal triple burst is much smoother because instead of going 12 34 12 34, it goes like 123 123.

Saying "something is a no" is an expression btw. It means that you should not compare them.

The weapons are indeed similar, however the style is completely different. With strike noir, you can go around relying either on your melee (including whip) or your guns. On the other hand, gouf ignited cannot rely on its melee or whip and its gun is awkward.

I'm sure that you've seen the previous mentions of not only the whip's stupid delay, which happens both pre and post whip, but also the range mentioned by Fala.

Strike noir on the other hand has a smooth quick whip, along with a smooth melee with good range, not to mention the 7.5 second boost duration.

If you intend to look at guns, I ask you to try out strike noir's pistols before saying anything. Those things are so fking fast that its unbelievable.

The feel of the suits are completely different, despite the similarity in the weapons.
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1) Gouf's w2 actually goes 11 11 btw.

2) Gouf is a B rank. You expect a B rank to be as good as an AR rank?

3) It's whip does indeed have a delay from the start and beginning as well as having shorter range. Once again, it's a B rank.

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If you intend to look at guns, I ask you to try out strike noir's pistols before saying anything. Those things are so fking fast that its unbelievable.
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1) Gouf's w2 actually goes 11 11 btw.

2) Gouf is a B rank. You expect a B rank to be as good as an AR rank?

3) It's whip does indeed have a delay from the start and beginning as well as having shorter range. Once again, it's a B rank.



This made me lol so hard.
i was counting the shots per click? o.o

i said 12 34, which is the same pattern as 11 11

Just because something is a B rank doesn't mean it should automatically be inferior to an A ranked suit. Its just that noir is very good in the first place and gouf ignited is.... well not quite good.

I mean, other B ranked whippers dont all have that retarded delay, and some of them are still quite good.

ex. norris gouf
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i was counting the shots per click? o.o

i said 12 34, which is the same pattern as 11 11

Just because something is a B rank doesn't mean it should automatically be inferior to an A ranked suit. Its just that noir is very good in the first place and gouf ignited is.... well not quite good.

I mean, other B ranked whippers dont all have that retarded delay, and some of them are still quite good.

ex. norris gouf
I was saying how Gouf Ignited is like a mini Strike Noir, then you went off about actually comparing the two.
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I was saying how Gouf Ignited is like a mini Strike Noir, then you went off about actually comparing the two.
because they cant be played in the same style
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And how much different can you play Strike Noir than Gouf Ignited, exactly?

Melee.

Whip to either start melee, start shooting, or counter melee.

Shoot.

Move left and right.

Move forward. Move back.
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Noir: Melee all the way, spam pistols to annoy because pistols' damage is weak

G.I.: Spam MG because it's the best weapon DPS wise.
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I find when using Gouf you'll rely more on BMGs than the other weapons.

Noir players usually chain Whip + Melee.
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Any Gouf rely more on the machine gun and whip, I think.

The UC Goufs have 10-burst damage dealers and GI has the heavy-damage BMG
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I have both Noir and Ignited.

I shoot my way out. Someone rushes me with melee or my team rushes, I whip people and melee or shoot more.

Sound pretty close to what Gouf Ignited can do?
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I have both Noir and Ignited.

I shoot my way out. Someone rushes me with melee or my team rushes, I whip people and melee or shoot more.

Sound pretty close to what Gouf Ignited can do?
ignited is a mg spammer first and foremost. since the melee is just.....wtf even with vert reach. and the retarded delay in whip launch is a pain to deal with.

noir on the other hand, has a long ass whip and near-sword strike melee. which makes it a melee monster.

conclusion, noir is much more versatile than ignited. you can play noir like ignited, but you cannot play ignited like noir, period.
 
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I have both Noir and Ignited.

I shoot my way out. Someone rushes me with melee or my team rushes, I whip people and melee or shoot more.

Sound pretty close to what Gouf Ignited can do?


For Noir it's likes this:

I should boost everywhere hunting for prey that I can melee to death. In case I can't melee I can still fall back a bit on my pistols for pretty decent shooting.

The melee swing speed is decent, the animation is smooth but most importantly, the sweep is wide cause it's 2 swords. This is topped off with red boost which basically allows you to boost forever and just win melee contests by boost attrition alone. Oh right, it also has a whip in case you get caught by suprise.

For Gouf Ignited it's like:

I should rely on my BMG entirely for damage and if I see an opening I can maybe go melee.

The melee swing speed is slow, the animations for the suit are sluggish. Not to mention the arc is not wide. With the short range whip having a delay, if you lag a bit it's entirely possible that you will get outmeleed. And the whip is really the only thing in it's weaponset that gives you superior melee, except it doesn't do a very good job of it.

High performance OS does help but since the suit isn't tanky either by the time it kicks in you're not going to be meleeing much.
 
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IMO.

Noir ~ Primary Melee, Secondary Pistols.
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Whip comes whenever you need it.
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That's a little mean.

I lied. It was quite rude.
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