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and yes, Ignited is indeed inferior to, say, Norris Gouf but it is still acceptably playable in BC or even ABC rooms. Provided you can use it well. MG does a lot of damage but lacks a big clip. Melee is decent with vertical reach but lacks speed. Whip is just short. So, yes. It fall in the middle class of B rank rocks but is not exactly near unplayable like some (Zgok E comes to mind).




He normally uses his super OCed BD2 as a B rank rock?

no its not, with respect to clip size, its reload is slow

I feel like it would benefit a lot from just increasing the smoothness of the animation of w1 and w3.
 
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I feel like it would benefit a lot from just increasing the smoothness of the animation of w1 and w3.
yup. too bad softmax is known to ignore less used suits

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He normally uses his super OCed BD2 as a B rank rock?

no its not, with respect to clip size, its reload is slow
Meh.

But seriously, it's only a 5 second reload (without skill 2). That's not that bad. Besides, Gouf Ignited's w2 isn't really even BMG... it's more like dual beam pistols being shot twice...

And 5 seconds for 5 shots... for Reborns, it's 5 second for a single shot. Really, it's honestly not that slow. Sure, compared to other BMGs it's slower, but my point is it's not exactly the same as a BMG.
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I just wish they'd buff wing gundam.
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Meh.

But seriously, it's only a 5 second reload (without skill 2). That's not that bad. Besides, Gouf Ignited's w2 isn't really even BMG... it's more like dual beam pistols being shot twice...

And 5 seconds for 5 shots... for Reborns, it's 5 second for a single shot. Really, it's honestly not that slow. Sure, compared to other BMGs it's slower, but my point is it's not exactly the same as a BMG.
its a quad shot, like rock NZ. but clipped. what i mean is, compared to other clip weapons, its slow. and dude, reborns is constant reload. you need to use all ammo to reload on ignited.

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its a quad shot, like rock NZ. but clipped. what i mean is, compared to other clip weapons, its slow. and dude, reborns is constant reload. you need to use all ammo to reload on ignited.



they already did. WITH KATOKI
It's not the same.
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I rather have a longer reload with all shots being replenished than constant reload...

Like how I wish 00Q's reload is like X-3's... But it's probably preference anyways.
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I rather have a longer reload with all shots being replenished than constant reload...

Like how I wish 00Q's reload is like X-3's... But it's probably preference anyways.
game balance mang....if all suits had clipped beam rifles magnums will rule the world
 
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game balance mang....if all suits had clipped beam rifles magnums will rule the world
like Full Armor Unicorn....
that beast will probably kill everything before running out of ammo?
 
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like Full Armor Unicorn....
that beast will probably kill everything before running out of ammo?
its not even out yet. watch softmax turn it into a HAC with beams
 
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its not even out yet. watch softmax turn it into a HAC with beams
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Here are my problems with gouf ignited:

1) it's not fast. Successful B rank rocks are either fast or...
2) it's not very tanky. Either a rock is fast or it's tanky. Gouf Ignited is neither of these but sort of stuck in the middle.
3) The whip range is too short. Usually a whip goes a long way toward making a melee weaponset awesome but in this case, the limited range makes the whole thing fall a bit short (puns intended).


The saving grace is that beam mg as people have already mentioned. The multiplier is indeed high and with attack up it can deliver some good damage. But it's not enough to bring the suit to anywhere but mediocrity. Especially since the melee swing speed is so slow compared to other modern rocks.
I Custom pointed it to speed and I think it's fine. I don't think the Whip is annoyingly short.
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gouf ignited is just overshadowed as long as there is a better gouf, which there is
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Don't know where you got such attitude.
Did I say it was "crap"? I only said "it doesn't seem any good because no one uses it", which is a reasonable assumption. People I know who capped it stopped using it after they tried it. Feel free to try it and tell me that I am wrong about it.
I'm sorry for trying to help.


Yet, you insist to break the C2 and keep capping for C3 without trying the C2 first?


A hanger is like $3-$4. It's not whether you have the money but whether you are willing to spend it.

After all, it's your time and money. I shouldn't be commenting how you manage it. Good luck.
That's how what you said came across to me. If I misinterpreted it, I apologize.

It's a reasonable assumption, but personally, I'd prefer trial and experience over observation of the masses. There are some suits that aren't used much but actually aren't so bad. Just outshined by their contemporaries.

That is a very good point, and my mistake. Though I actually went for it planning to keep it and if I got a C3, I certainly would, regardless of how it played (fanboy-ing)

I WOULD like to get hangars but unfortunately, my online purchases are kept on a tight leash by my dad, and I only have so much cash available to me during the rare times that I get to top up so yeah.

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The problem is the speed mang the speed

sure the damage per 4 thingies coming out is hihg, but the delay makes it feel so horrid, and it feels easier to miss.

Comparing it to strike noir is a no.

Noir pistols are godspeed, while gouf ignited is just

ugh....

The strike noir whip also inflicts Bullet Zero dones't it?

It just feels too clunky to be a good damage dealer, no matter how high the multiplier is, even an average rifle feels alot easier to manage

@ Stryker

I dont acutally use that BD2 that much anymore, its like my warm up suit, and sometimes my "lets do this shit" suit.
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The problem is the speed mang the speed

sure the damage per 4 thingies coming out is hihg, but the delay makes it feel so horrid, and it feels easier to miss.

Comparing it to strike noir is a no.

Noir pistols are godspeed, while gouf ignited is just

ugh....

The strike noir whip also inflicts Bullet Zero dones't it?

It just feels too clunky to be a good damage dealer, no matter how high the multiplier is, even an average rifle feels alot easier to manage

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I dont acutally use that BD2 that much anymore, its like my warm up suit, and sometimes my "lets do this shit" suit.
Seriously, I have no clue how you can say the delay sucks.

Gouf's w2 is Strike Noir's double pistols shot TWICE. That delay between the 2 shots is so minimal you have to suck some serious shit to miss the next 2. If you think the delay for Gouf's w2 is so horrid then BMG's delay between each triple burst must be bad in your eyes as well.

And comparing it to Strike Noir is a no? Make your sentences make sense please. They both have similar weapons. One is a B rank and one is a AR rank. Of course they're different, but they have similar weapons that can be played the same style.
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