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Default Ugh...

I miss a lot of you =/.
*hugs*
I might come back. sometime. God knows when.

Bloodlust had some Psycho thing go on, and the GM's died...

Limit...I was there 1 day and despised it.

And Kirameki is sorta bland. Not too promising, so I'll see how it works out.

If it doesn't work out, then I suppose i'll rejoin Royalty.
And im predicting either one of 3 scenarios.
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Scenario #1: Happy Ending for a new beginning.

ZOMG SEPH ISH BACK! YAY! WE MISSED YOO! *hugs* Lets all go make cupcakes and poke fun at pointless things that no one cares about, but are funny anyways 8D!
*some people glad to have me back, all normal again.

Scenario #2: *stabzorz*

OMG THAT FRKIN NUB IS BACK.
HE SHULDNT HAV LEFT US 2 BEGIN WITH. WHAT A N00B, HE DUZENT B-LONG HERE.
*insert 1 page of profanity, harrassment, KSing, and despise*
*Sephi gets sad that no one liked him in the first place D=*

Scenario #3: Who died?
"Hi everyone! Im so glad to be back ^^ missed you guys! *hugs*
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*crickets* (Obviously stating that no one has much to say.)
~2 days later~

"Whats everyone doing? =D"
"B>1 noose 560k Ely"
"Sounds like...fun...ehheh >.>"
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*el sigh* I miss you guys.
Especially MIXO AND MOTO >:O We ARE still the trio I hope!

And then there was the leaders; watchful, and...intimidating ;-;

And Saphiro; Whom I think rocks @.@

Misu and KStyle; Promised I would pay ya' back ;D
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Maybe I'll be back soon =p
But the real question is, is If I am wanted here still.

~Miss dearly


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Having you back into our guild will cause uneasiness to both you and some of our members, i will not let that happen. Also, if you're expecting some of our members to ignore you in gchat as stated in your scenario 3, i don't undestand why you would like to come back.

I've taken action to prevent you from staying in the guild because you showed me that you cared about us. When you left, it showed me that you really didn't care.

Especially with the mindset you have right now, i don't want you. You havn't changed at all.
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I loved Royalty.
But I guess that if thats how it was from the start, then I didn't belong to begin with.
I guess if THAT many people were...uncomfortable with me, then there would be no reason to come back.
But I don't neccesarily see a reason why there should be uncomfortabity.
It's not like im trying to hurt anyone, or their feelings.
I just...miss everyone.
But there must not be hope for me now.


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"I want to join a guild that would appreciate my presence"

Didn't you say something like that..? You can't say something like that and then expect to be accepted back in. :/

And no you didn't hurt anyone's feelings, but that was just very rude. Shows how selfish you can be.
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Selfish?
Since when did I come off as selfish?
I could care less if I was....appreciated.
Besides, It's not like I want to be in...anymore. Since apparently I can't repent.
Which, that chance was crushed at the first reply.
Originally, I posted this because I cared about alot of people in that guild, and missed alot of them. Including both of you.

I still sort of wonder why I left, because I liked more people than I disliked...
But whats done is done.
Sorry for the unnecessary departure.
Sorry I wasted your time typing.
Sorry I cared.
Feel free to stitch up this thread, I guess, from whats posted so far, Im not really...wanted here anymore.


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Thats what you think now, but you didn't think like that when you left.
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Thats because...
I didn't think when I left. Not hard eneough anyways.
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Bloodlust had some Psycho thing go on, and the GM's died...

Limit...I was there 1 day and despised it.

And Kirameki is sorta bland. Not too promising, so I'll see how it works out.

If it doesn't work out, then I suppose i'll rejoin Royalty.
And im predicting either one of 3 scenarios.
That mindset is mostly why Josh is not happy with.

You are basically telling us that "O, let me try these other guilds first, and if they aren't pleasing, then I'll rejoin Royalty". The point is that if you did want to rejoin, you could've left a prompt apology and why you wanted to rejoin. Telling us that you are trying out other guilds, then choosing us as a last option just made everyone look down on you.

That is what we meant by "that mindset" I hope you learn from this LeArc.

Also Guild Hopping isn't going to get you a good reputation.. especially at higher levels they look down on you.
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Well...Im not going to stay in a guild im discontent with.
It's really hard...

I've had to go through so many guilds...
Starting in Trickster...
PwnSt4r fell apart...the members all got corrupted...
So the guildmaster just...got rid of all the good members, and left just me and the crappy ones.

Then all my good friends went off and... did their thing. Which I wasnt a part of.

So I made my own guild for security with myself. But...I gave up on TO. It wasnt the same without my friends.

So I came here...joined Royalty. I was discontent with...a few of the members, and the...daily talk about...explicit subjects.
So I left, not neccesarily thinking about people that might/ or did, care. Which I agree, that; that part was a bit...stupid.

So I joined Limit then. Left limit. nuff' said.

Bloodlust was a GREAT guild. I thought I had found my dream guild...but the guildmasters... whom were dating, got all freaked out over stupid crap, and left.
Leaving me and a few decent members.
So everyone left. I left too.

Then Im in Kirameki.
I joined Kirameki because I feel secure, with a guild that has /seemingly/ genuine members. Im still getting to know a few of them, but its a rollercoaster ride.
Im feeling content after getting to know a few of the members.
So I dont know if I leave.
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I've just...haven't been having good luck with guilds anymore.

I want a guild with mature, talkative, "teamwork-ish" members, and a place where I feel comfortable.
I havent found one yet.

However. I really did enjoy Royalty, and regret leaving. I would like to go back, but its inevitable at this point.
I don't think of Royalty as 2nd wheel.
If I could go there. I would.
But I got to know a few of the members here today.
So I dont want to abandon them, I've learned from those mistakes.
But If a situation did come up, where somehow I lost all hope for Kirameki, (in which I doubt will happen) I would want back to Royalty.

But I dont want a thread to be intended for this.
I really want to know how everyone is doing, and what is going on.
I really do miss you guys =/.
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So ya LeArc, kirameki lurks forums too. You said in multiple places in this thread that you aren't satisfied with us. Would you like to leave? or take the boot?

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The whole thing about you choosing us as a last resort just makes me angry. You could have said it in a whole other way and got a better response out of us.

I've been a guild leader in other games, and the whole guildhopper thing is just not going to get you anywhere. (Lots of this has already been said, but I don't care) I can understand you not being comfortable with some of those conversations that had happened, I was kind of uncomfortable too only because it seemed kind of immature or just something that someone wouldn't want to hear, but if you've been in other mmos, you know perversion/joking around is going to be everywhere. In guild, in buddy chat, in microphones, everywhere, so you might as well get used to it or flat out talk to the people saying the things that make you feel uncomfortable and try to get them to lay off of it a little, that or mute any chats it might be on or just not look at the freaking chat box on four lines of text.

Now making it sound like we weren't teamwork oriented.. wtf.

(This may or may not apply to you, but to any other former member who is reading this)

I put more effort than I should helping everyone when I can just as everyone else does. Anyone that's been in our guild for a while will help you when possible. No one should EXPECT help because when that happens, we're practically just playing your character for you. I could just be like "No, I'm going to help you if you if I feel like you can't do it alone.. when I feel like it" but I don't. I use lots of my time helping others. I seem to remember taking you to the vault as I helped MANY people get thier sphinx set (especially sandals and you know how rare those are). I didn't get much help starting out mainly because the higher ups I knew already had thier sphinx equips and/or boss scenarios done.

Example: I didn't do my dmp scenario or sphinx scenario with Justin or Josh because they went without me, but that didn't make me want to quit the guild. I rarely had parties of people and I had almost no one in guild or buddy list to train with so I solo trained and I didn't quit. I got some of my sphinx set with friends and not the guild because they were busy or not around and I didn't quit. I understand how hard it can be and that's why I will take people on runs for money or equips. I help them with bosses or give them advice to the best of my ability.

Just hinting that we don't help people insults me very much as a Captain and as a person. That is kind of like the people who leave our guild because they can't get in a party for the exp event when they show up like one minute before the event starts. In one server with possibly thousands of people playing and seven maps to choose from (if you know where you want to train) that's just stupid logic (I'm referring to another member who quit but I'm not going to mention a name)

The fact that you had two chances to be in the guild puts you above most others who come, and leave for some reason and don't get a second chance. But for the record. I came from a much more drama filled mmo and the whole "guilt tripping us into putting you back in" will not make me want you back in. For the record, I cared. I care about everyone who identifies with us, dares to FREAKING TALK and try and be friends with us. I hate it when someone comes in, doesn't talk, logs in and out, lies about being active etc and then just leaves because "we're not doing stuff for him or her" But this is too out there and I would just get more fed up if you did come back and then left again "without thinking" because that is basically what everyone who leaves us does if they're not quitting the game.

We are not going to be taken advantage of.
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And Kirameki is sorta bland. Not too promising, so I'll see how it works out.
The things you said here were pretty offensive... Is that really what you think of us? o.o
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especially sandals and you know how rare those are
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It's only rare because you haven't come to vault with me. I get those all the time.
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A guild is like a family. You spend a lot of time with them, and sure, there's going to be one, or even a few, that you don't like very much. But you put up with it. You fight through. From what I remember, you hardly gave it a chance. I've had experiences of not liking members in past guilds in other games, but for what? Personal grudges? Rumors? It's silly. It's just a game. I learned to accept that, and they turned out to be a cool group of friends.

You may think that everyone was out to get you, but it was just bad luck. Some people have other things to do, and in a game like this, it's hard to respond at all while fighting. Patience is the greatest key in MMOs, especially when dealing with many other players. Unfortunately, because of your statements of this guild being pretty much a backup, you really havn't helped your chances of being forgiven. I hope that this can at least be of a good lesson along the road for you.
 
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Im in the wrong...=[
Sorry...both sides...
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This.

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Example: I didn't do my dmp scenario or sphinx scenario with Justin or Josh because they went without me, but that didn't make me want to quit the guild. I rarely had parties of people and I had almost no one in guild or buddy list to train with so I solo trained and I didn't quit. I got some of my sphinx set with friends and not the guild because they were busy or not around and I didn't quit. I understand how hard it can be and that's why I will take people on runs for money or equips. I help them with bosses or give them advice to the best of my ability.
David is true. I felt bad when we went to do DMP and Sphinx with members that ended up leaving the guild. Yet he stayed with us (Royalty) since the beginning at such a low level, till now (I haven't been on, but I'm guessing he is at lvl 120+). I am really grateful that he stayed with us all they way, through the rocky road of becoming guild level 5

LeArc, you have no excuse. You only left us, because people were ignoring you and those that were ignoring you were the ones you hated. I even went on my earth heal mage that I have never touched for the longest time to help the low levels to level up (brandon and you). At least us, the leaders and co-leader tried our best to keep you from staying, you were a "potential member" for us, reason we had the discussion in guild room. Still, you left us.

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I...did not leave because I was being ignored.
You make it sound like I craved attention, I don't /need/ attention.
I left, because seemingly everyday, Sex happened to be in the chatlog, and everytime I brought my issue up, I got the cold shoulder.
I really dont like Sex talk, I find it disgusting, and in certain cases; degrading.

Smaller reasons were that I just felt a bit left out; not ignored. Besides, I only disliked a few people. But I think I have gotten over that now; that was my own idiocy at play there.
Im fine with everyone but one person whom (I think is still there), and wasn't taken care of. Im calm, but HIGHLY irratable. I felt the need to leave guildchat, so I wouldn't go off.
I tried my best to keep issues out of the guild. *shrug* This thread crushed that.

I really apologize for any /frustration/ that I may have given you.
But as I say earlier.
This thread was intended for me to see how everyone was doing, because I missed you guys.

I guess I cant do much about what I've already posted, I've said a few things that said for a purpose that was a bit misinterperated.


But anyway. Im seriously trying to end it now.
If you have any questions or whatever, please just PM me...
Sorry for this thread. Kinda prefer it would be deleted now.

*edit* Kirameki, I meant most of that stuff for when I hadn't been in Kirameki, I joined Kirameki upon the day of posting this, I meant the "I havent found a good guild yet thing" in a way, that I was looking for it, I never said Kirameki lacked that.
And the "Kirameki is sorta bland" thing, It was my first day. Not many people seemed...welcoming of me. I didn't know what to think, first impressions kinda mean alot to me. There were also only 2 members on, Which that was the only occasion so far. My bad.

Atm, I feel no negative things towards either guild.
I miss some people in Royalty.
Im getting to know people in Kirameki.
All is fine.
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Dissention; 180/Dragoon - Xileh; 170 Strider
Elisevetyl; 121/Templar - TheFameMonster; 80/Guardian
PrettyH8Machine; 40/Engineer - ????; ??/??

I'm sort of back, I think. I don't know.

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