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d4rka2n 02-09-2009 05:32 PM

Hacker Found
 
I have screenshots and prove that mmokami is a guild of hackers, cheats, thieves with false idenity. With the help of tehfaith who is Ladyathy's older brother, i was able to investigate this throughly and i would also like to thank all my friends for supporting me in this depressional mode im in with a new char and having to abandon my main and creating a hidden char.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/716...158wv71hu9.jpg
mmokami's guild leader pointing to us out whos inside jeyzshinigami my friend's acct and which i previously owned to take care of it until he returns.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/529...888pw61wt0.jpg
hacker that was on my friend's acct saying he is blak ( blaksnow lv 62 yuki )

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9884/62183351ir41ns0.jpg
more pics of how the hacker wouldnt give my friend's acct back after hung told him to. even the leader HIMSELF said it out loud about whos the hacker and who was in jey b4 its acct was sold. I am not lieing, even if it was photoshoped it would b impossible since the leader / person said it themselves. Srry if this offended any mmokami members that wasnt involved with this incident.

Extras : read what etolie posted, ur kidding me right? the Gm(s) dont even care, i cant believe ijji has some "fail" service.

The account owner of the account LadyAthy needs to contact acctadmin@ijji.com for further information about the status of their account. Since you are not the account owner, I'm not at liberty to discuss this with you in any capacity whatsoever, for the sake of privacy. That is a customer service email, which I do not answer, but the customer service team will answer the account owner's inquiry in the order it is received.
Regardless of the half of the lunia population you have purportedly backing you, I'm not closing anyone's account based off of drama and hearsay. Furthermore, if you post these screenshots, the thread will be deleted for drama. Please recover your account via the helpdesk. Did anyone else have access to your account, or did you give out your login information to anyone?

As stated in my previous message to you, I'm not going to be banning anyone based on hearsay. What you just sent to me, is exactly that-- hearsay.
In the meantime, I thank you for your patience while you and your friends await a response from the helpdesk for assistance in your account recovery.--------Then tell me, Why was my friend banned for? False accusion and you think ur gonna let the real curplits get away with that?

Whereupon you gave him your login information, is that correct?-------because he used false idenity

It's none of your business what your friend was banned for. Period. It's not your account. It has nothing to do with you.
This "justice" you are referring to also has absolutely nothing to do with your account. Regardless of whether someone convinced you whether they were your friend or not, the fact that you shared your login information with this person renders you responsible for the breeched security of your account.---- it is my business, its my friend's account he entrust to me. and hell yea it is mines because athy's my friend i have the right to know.

You yourself just admitted to violating the Terms of Service. Ijji does not recognize the trade, or sharing of accounts. As you are not even the original account owner, it's truly not your call to make.--- Yes i admiited into violating it, that is why i closed off my old account to remake a new one, to start a new self again to remove my preivous mistakes and hopefully not to do it again. when i find my friend ( the owner of jeyz's shinigami ) i will ask him/her to PM u about this situation and then its his call to make.

DO YOU guys call this Justice? NO because currently this company fails more than tft, *Wants tft's Gm team* Since ijji GMs wont let me post this on their site due to some so call "DRAMA" when i was gonna do to RESTORE my friend ( LadyAthy )'s reputation that kooki put with this. Athy hacked a2nkn1ght. - ijji Forums

sometimes it takes more than just clear pointing out accusing a innocent person and geting them banned for no reason. And that is why i pointed this MAJOR flaw in their system.

Light 02-09-2009 05:51 PM

Can't tell what Etolie said, it lacks quotes around her reply. Next thing I notice it's your opinion on that statement.

Well, if the ToS is broken, they have no reason to help you.
Sorry, but all that you have is lost.

d4rka2n 02-09-2009 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 708291)
Can't tell what Etolie said, it lacks quotes around her reply. Next thing I notice it's your opinion on that statement.

Well, if the ToS is broken, they have no reason to help you.
Sorry, but all that you have is lost.

If the Tos is broken, why dont we sell our accounts then? why dont we go break more of the TOS since they're not gonna do anything to it anyways. see my point? LACK of support service in times of need.

buta 02-09-2009 06:07 PM

You, sir, make me lol.

1. GM deleted the thread you linked to. While I read it while it was still up, anybody who actually believes that is really, really, really dim in the head.
2. Your sekrit character's name is in your screenshot. And you basically answered to your name while in a battlefield. I wasn't even looking for it and I found it out. GG for secrecy.
3.
Quote:

Originally Posted by d4rka2n (Post 708277)
I have screenshots and prove that mmokami is a guild of hackers, cheats, thieves with false idenity.
............
Srry if this offended any mmokami members that wasnt involved with this incident.

Actually, they're just a guild that invites anyone. As much as people like to judge entire guilds by certain people, it doesn't work as well as you'd think. ie. just because you think one person is a retard, doesn't mean the entire guild is retarded. just because you trust one person, don't go trusting the entire guild.
4. Consider the possibility that this "hacker" on the account really is clueless as to the accusations you're making.
5.
Quote:

You, as the registered user of an account, are ultimately and completely responsible for maintaining confidentiality of your login information and computer system used to access the Site or Service.
TOS quote for you. Obviously the account information was known. That or the person is a good guesser. Thus the owner is at fault for not reading the ToS. Anything beyond that, whining about how you trusted someone, is just asking for drama.
edit: this is just to clarify the point that Light made, that you broke the ToS and thus your account has problems. And thus they can't/won't help you.

BTW, why IS everyone out to get Athy?

d4rka2n 02-09-2009 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buta (Post 708310)
You, sir, make me lol.

1. GM deleted the thread you linked to. While I read it while it was still up, anybody who actually believes that is really, really, really dim in the head.
2. Your sekrit character's name is in your screenshot. And you basically answered to your name while in a battlefield. I wasn't even looking for it and I found it out. GG for secrecy.
3.
Actually, they're just a guild that invites anyone. As much as people like to judge entire guilds by certain people, it doesn't work as well as you'd think. ie. just because you think one person is a retard, doesn't mean the entire guild is retarded. just because you trust one person, don't go trusting the entire guild.
4. Consider the possibility that this "hacker" on the account really is clueless as to the accusations you're making.
5. TOS quote for you. Obviously the account information was known. That or the person is a good guesser. Thus the owner is at fault for not reading the ToS. Anything beyond that, whining about how you trusted someone, is just asking for drama.
edit: this is just to clarify the point that Light made, that you broke the ToS and thus your account has problems. And thus they can't/won't help you.

BTW, why IS everyone out to get Athy?

no that person did not know my friend's account, he made a fake one called 'forgottenjeyz" aka false idenity to fool every1 in the PinK guild. And i already know i broke the TOS thats y i DELETED my 6x account. What im trying to show who they are and why the gm(s) dont do any action.

buta 02-09-2009 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by d4rka2n (Post 708323)
no that person did not know my friend's account, he made a fake one called 'forgottenjeyz" aka false idenity to fool every1 in the PinK guild. And i already know i broke the TOS thats y i DELETED my 6x account. What im trying to show who they are and why the gm(s) dont do any action.

ijji - Where Gamers Unite!
Specifically number 4. They are not obligated to do a thing for you because the fault is yours in the first place. Or your friends. I don't know your social group.

If the account information got into the hands of the "hacker" by any means outside of a forced entry (ie. owner tells them, owner tells someone and they hear, etc.) then the owner of the account has no right to complain about it as, from the very beginning, it is the owners fault for even saying it outloud.

Social engineering is not considered in the ToS. And given that that is how, I assume from your vague description, said "hacker" gained access to the account, then ijji cannot do anything. Least of all if the account information was given up voluntarily.

d4rka2n 02-09-2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buta (Post 708336)
ijji - Where Gamers Unite!
Specifically number 4. They are not obligated to do a thing for you because the fault is yours in the first place. Or your friends. I don't know your social group.

If the account information got into the hands of the "hacker" by any means outside of a forced entry (ie. owner tells them, owner tells someone and they hear, etc.) then the owner of the account has no right to complain about it as, from the very beginning, it is the owners fault for even saying it outloud.

Social engineering is not considered in the ToS. And given that that is how, I assume from your vague description, said "hacker" gained access to the account, then ijji cannot do anything. Least of all if the account information was given up voluntarily.

well there is ONE way the gm would do action, is to find the real jey himself and let him tell the gms that he want his account banned along wit the hackers, thats like the only choice OR.... get his e-mail + e-mail password and reset his password ( i has his e-mail dunno password )

SilentSaber 02-10-2009 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4rka2n (Post 708342)
well there is ONE way the gm would do action, is to find the real jey himself and let him tell the gms that he want his account banned along wit the hackers, thats like the only choice OR.... get his e-mail + e-mail password and reset his password ( i has his e-mail dunno password )

Fighting fire with fire, eh? This can only be bad, and by bad, I mean drama [hilarity for 3rd party] ensues.

ShadowPearls 02-10-2009 01:06 AM

azn, i suggest you bring this to the court. Trust me, pretty much the samething happened in tw, and the court took care of it. If I'm not mistaken, at least 300 cases were solved.

So ya...try it <.<
I do not know if the US does it though <.<

d4rka2n 02-10-2009 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowPearls (Post 708945)
azn, i suggest you bring this to the court. Trust me, pretty much the samething happened in tw, and the court took care of it. If I'm not mistaken, at least 300 cases were solved.

So ya...try it <.<
I do not know if the US does it though <.<

um apparently im too young for it same wit jeyz LOL ( hes 19 livin in arizona so idk where is he D: ) and im 15 in new york, think im too young 4 that?

oomgomfg 02-10-2009 02:26 PM

IMO, if you can't even contact the real owner, then why the heck are you even trying to recover the accounts? Who are you trying to help here?

Learn to differentiate your real guildies with impostors, if you are really close friends, you should be able to tell if it is/isn't them right away. Sharing accounts is against the ToS, so therefore ijji is not liable to help you in any way at all. TFT didn't care, so they of course wouldn't delete your thread.

d4rka2n 02-10-2009 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oomgomfg (Post 709479)
IMO, if you can't even contact the real owner, then why the heck are you even trying to recover the accounts? Who are you trying to help here?

Learn to differentiate your real guildies with impostors, if you are really close friends, you should be able to tell if it is/isn't them right away. Sharing accounts is against the ToS, so therefore ijji is not liable to help you in any way at all. TFT didn't care, so they of course wouldn't delete your thread.

im recovering my friend's account becuz he left me with it, currently i dont no if hes gonna respond his e-mail or wat i spammed password resets to his e-mail already, if hes able to change it, then its GG For the hackers. and yea sharing accts is againist the TOS, but they're SELLING and BUYING and SHARING it as well. TFT did care when their active, but NOOO they got lazy after like 1 week?

Kotarou 02-13-2009 12:25 AM

Hi targets have identified each other lol

I care a lot so this thread is

CLOSED



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