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Default Champion Flaming Fist Formula?

Im not sure if i did this right, but :
-If i had 5000 AP , 500% Fire , 100 MA.
Formula : AP (Magnification Ratio + Fire Attr) MA 100
5000 x (5.3 + 500) x 100 100
5000 x 505.3 x 100 100 = 2,526,500
I dont think i would hit 2.5M damage , though.
 
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AP (Magnification Ratio + Fire Attr) MA 100

5000 x (5.3 + 5) x 100 100
5000 x 10.3 x 100 100
5000 x 10.3 x 1 = 51,500

You wouldn't calculate fire attr % as 500.

If I miscalculated, dear god somebody please correct me. I'm terrible at math, but I do know you wouldn't calculate 500% as 500.
(Also, it'd be extremely difficult to get 500% fire attr.)
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AP (Magnification Ratio + Fire Attr) MA 100

5000 x (5.3 + 5) x 100 100
5000 x 10.3 x 100 100
5000 x 10.3 x 1 = 51,500

You wouldn't calculate fire attr % as 500.

If I miscalculated, dear god somebody please correct me. I'm terrible at math, but I do know you wouldn't calculate 500% as 500.
(Also, it'd be extremely difficult to get 500% fire attr.)
It is pretty easy with an inferno set 0.0. So this skill is mainly dependant on AP or MA?
 
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It is pretty easy with an inferno set 0.0. So this skill is mainly dependant on AP or MA?
Assuming you're willing to waste that much on 4G stuff for a single skill, yes.
It's majorly dependent on fire attr. It's generally not that great of a skill in my opinion, as you can do more with tetra without requiring a lot of attr.
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Would a 3.5K ap sword be better, or a 200% fire inferno sword, with 1k ish ap
 
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The AP one for skills, any difference, if there is one, in melee, will be minimal.

Inferno Sword sucks by the way, many other AP weapons are attribute compoundable, and way better. Namely uniques and Altiverses. If you have the resources for an Inferno Sword you certainly have the resources to invest in a decent unique or Altiverse sword instead.
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The AP one for skills, any difference, if there is one, in melee, will be minimal.

Inferno Sword sucks by the way, many other AP weapons are attribute compoundable, and way better. Namely uniques and Altiverses. If you have the resources for an Inferno Sword you certainly have the resources to invest in a decent unique or Altiverse sword instead.
Which altiverse sword is fire attri compound-able?
 
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Ok let me explain this graph.
There are 4 variables in the flaming fist formula soo...
I set the damage as 1 000 000
The rest give you the values of AP, Fire and MA required to produce 1mil damage.
Basically what this says is you need to balance all 3 stats to obtain the maximum out put. When you start to have 0 of 1 stats, you will need to have lots of the other 2 to compensate for it. If you lack 2 of the stats, you'll need a huge amount of the final stat to do 1mil damge.
If you have average of each of the 3 stats, it is much easier to do 1 mil damage. Take a pint in the middle of the graph, you can see from this that the values are much more human to obtain.

I hope this is clear, I understand not everyone is great at math.

For anyone with Mathematica, here's the code for my Plot
Plot3D[MA = 1000000*100/(AP*(5.3*FA/100)), {AP, 5000, 20000}, {FA,
200, 1000}]
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In math, 500% = 5x, like 10% = 0,10 so:
5000 x (5.3 + 5) x 100 100
5000 x 10,3 x 100 100 =
51500 x 1 =
51500 is next to your damage in ff.
 

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