ggFTW

MMORPG Gamer Community


Go Back   ggFTW Forum > Off Topic > General Discussion > News & Current Events

Aika Online
Looking for a new MMO?

Try 

Aika Online

Rating:  

7.6

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
01-12-2013   #1 (permalink)
kag
meow
kag's Avatar
Games
Asda StoryLunia
Awards MoM Award
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Rodesia
Posts: 2,900
iTrader: (0)
kag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond repute
Class: Dacy lu_dacy
Guild: ForielUnion, OurStory
Default Hacker and Reddit co-founder Aaron Swartz dies

Quote:
Aaron Swartz, the 26-year-old who helped build internet institutions like Reddit and Creative Commons, committed suicide in New York yesterday.
The news was confirmed by MIT newspaper The Tech, which received word from both Swartz's uncle and attorney.

In addition to his work with Reddit, Swartz also co-authored the very first RSS specification and was involved as an activist through his work as founder of Demand Progress.
via Hacker and Reddit co-founder Aaron Swartz dies | The Verge

The family's full statement is included below:
Quote:
Our beloved brother, son, friend, and partner Aaron Swartz hanged himself on Friday in his Brooklyn apartment. We are in shock, and have not yet come to terms with his passing.

Aaron's insatiable curiosity, creativity, and brilliance; his reflexive empathy and capacity for selfless, boundless love; his refusal to accept injustice as inevitable—these gifts made the world, and our lives, far brighter. We're grateful for our time with him, to those who loved him and stood with him, and to all of those who continue his work for a better world.

Aaron’s commitment to social justice was profound, and defined his life. He was instrumental to the defeat of an Internet censorship bill; he fought for a more democratic, open, and accountable political system; and he helped to create, build, and preserve a dizzying range of scholarly projects that extended the scope and accessibility of human knowledge. He used his prodigious skills as a programmer and technologist not to enrich himself but to make the Internet and the world a fairer, better place. His deeply humane writing touched minds and hearts across generations and continents. He earned the friendship of thousands and the respect and support of millions more.

Aaron’s death is not simply a personal tragedy. It is the product of a criminal justice system rife with intimidation and prosecutorial overreach. Decisions made by officials in the Massachusetts U.S. Attorney’s office and at MIT contributed to his death. The US Attorney’s office pursued an exceptionally harsh array of charges, carrying potentially over 30 years in prison, to punish an alleged crime that had no victims. Meanwhile, unlike JSTOR, MIT refused to stand up for Aaron and its own community’s most cherished principles.

Today, we grieve for the extraordinary and irreplaceable man that we have lost.
via http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/12/38...-on-government

http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/403474...cutor-as-bully

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/14/38...ive-prosecutor
__________________

Fanart Anime/Manga Tees at http://www.facebook.com/metronomist

Last edited by kag; 01-15-2013 at 03:31 AM.
 
Get rid of this ad by registering for our community.
01-12-2013   #2 (permalink)
200%♥
LauraMix's Avatar
Games
Trickster OnlineDragon Nest
Awards Facebook FanPervert Award
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,376
Blog Entries: 7
iTrader: (1)
LauraMix has disabled reputation
Default

This is a sad day.
__________________

"There is no Real ending. It's just the place where you stop the story." -Frank Herbert
 
01-12-2013   #3 (permalink)
Derpin' Herpin'
Metty's Avatar
Games
LuniaSD Gundam Online: Capsule FighterRusty HeartsAika Online
Awards MoM Award
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 3,025
Blog Entries: 26
iTrader: (0)
Metty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant future
Send a message via Skype™ to Metty
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LauraMix
This is a sad day.
I don't see how, people die everyday. Only difference is he was "famous" but still pathetic enough to end his life. Suicide's a cowards way of dealing with life.
__________________

 
01-12-2013   #4 (permalink)
C.I.A. Rad Bromance
Torikakae's Avatar
Games
Trickster OnlineAuditionGrand ChasePangya
Awards Event WinnerMoM AwardWandering Eye
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: In An Epic Battle
Posts: 5,331
Blog Entries: 17
iTrader: (12)
Torikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Torikakae Send a message via Yahoo to Torikakae Send a message via Skype™ to Torikakae
IGN: Torikakae
Class: Buffalo to_buffalo
Level: 400
Guild: Mirage Coordinator
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Metty
I don't see how, people die everyday. Only difference is he was "famous" but still pathetic enough to end his life. Suicide's a cowards way of dealing with life.
Since this isn't Random, I'll take that as a serious comment.

Don't take suicide lightly. You can't expect them to think the same way you do. It's as immature and insensitive as saying to someone with clinical depression to "Just get over it".
__________________
Click here for more Buffalo hotness <3
PM me for password ^_~ 2000+ Buff pics!! ~ 07-24-11

~Thank you Shnao for the siggie~
 
01-12-2013   #5 (permalink)
Derpin' Herpin'
Metty's Avatar
Games
LuniaSD Gundam Online: Capsule FighterRusty HeartsAika Online
Awards MoM Award
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 3,025
Blog Entries: 26
iTrader: (0)
Metty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant future
Send a message via Skype™ to Metty
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Torikakae
Since this isn't Random, I'll take that as a serious comment.

Don't take suicide lightly. You can't expect them to think the same way you do. It's as immature and insensitive as saying to someone with clinical depression to "Just get over it".
Yes, I was serious and funny enough I've been diagnosed with depression for the past fourteen years. I'll also add to the list that suicide is also very selfish as it causes many problems for the people related and were friends with them. Of the two people I've personally known to remove themselves from the gene pool both said the exact same thing in their letters; "life is too difficult, I don't want to try anymore".
As such I am very blunt when it comes to suicide. It's a cowardly, pathetic and selfish thing to do to those around you.
__________________

 
01-12-2013   #6 (permalink)
C.I.A. Rad Bromance
Torikakae's Avatar
Games
Trickster OnlineAuditionGrand ChasePangya
Awards Event WinnerMoM AwardWandering Eye
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: In An Epic Battle
Posts: 5,331
Blog Entries: 17
iTrader: (12)
Torikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond reputeTorikakae has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Torikakae Send a message via Yahoo to Torikakae Send a message via Skype™ to Torikakae
IGN: Torikakae
Class: Buffalo to_buffalo
Level: 400
Guild: Mirage Coordinator
Default

Not all depression are the same. Likewise, you can't expect everyone with varying degrees of depression to think and act the same way you did. You don't know the guy, so how can you say that your minds are the same?

Unless you were suicidal, and I mean really suicidal, can you really judge someone like that. If you weren't, then I'll blunt as well; It's insensitive, irresponsible, and immature.
__________________
Click here for more Buffalo hotness <3
PM me for password ^_~ 2000+ Buff pics!! ~ 07-24-11

~Thank you Shnao for the siggie~
 
01-12-2013   #7 (permalink)
kag
meow
kag's Avatar
Games
Asda StoryLunia
Awards MoM Award
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Rodesia
Posts: 2,900
iTrader: (0)
kag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond repute
Class: Dacy lu_dacy
Guild: ForielUnion, OurStory
Default

To me suicide doesn't really have a right or wrong.
Cause no one will ever know what another person has been through.

And i feel that people who hang themselves thought it through.
It isn't like popping pills, jumping off a building or slitting your wrists.

Anyway it is much more complicated.
JSTOR Hacker Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide -- Daily Intelligencer

To put it in a nice way, he gave up hope on humanity.
__________________

Fanart Anime/Manga Tees at http://www.facebook.com/metronomist

Last edited by kag; 01-12-2013 at 08:13 PM.
 
01-12-2013   #8 (permalink)
Derpin' Herpin'
Metty's Avatar
Games
LuniaSD Gundam Online: Capsule FighterRusty HeartsAika Online
Awards MoM Award
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 3,025
Blog Entries: 26
iTrader: (0)
Metty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant futureMetty has a brilliant future
Send a message via Skype™ to Metty
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Torikakae
Not all depression are the same. Likewise, you can't expect everyone with varying degrees of depression to think and act the same way you did. You don't know the guy, so how can you say that your minds are the same?
I never said we were the same. Nor did I say they should act like I have in regards to depression.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Torikakae
Unless you were suicidal, and I mean really suicidal, can you really judge someone like that. If you weren't, then I'll blunt as well; It's insensitive, irresponsible, and immature.
I have several years ago and ended up in hospital due to it. Am I going to have to detail the shit that happened in my life that drove me to it as well? I can give you a nice list.
__________________

 
01-13-2013   #9 (permalink)
Gluttony Fang
Kisaragi's Avatar
Games
SD Gundam Online: Capsule FighterRagnarok OnlinePerfect WorldPhantasy Star Online 2
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Ninth Circle
Posts: 3,492
iTrader: (0)
Kisaragi has much to be proud ofKisaragi has much to be proud ofKisaragi has much to be proud ofKisaragi has much to be proud ofKisaragi has much to be proud ofKisaragi has much to be proud ofKisaragi has much to be proud ofKisaragi has much to be proud ofKisaragi has much to be proud of
IGN: Excellence
Class: Platinum Lucifer lu_sieg
Level: Ace in Exile
Guild: Harkonen
Default

I humbly request everybody to shut the hell up about your judgment on committing suicide. I'm a suicidal person, and still not out of my slump. When a person commits suicide, all parties are on the losing side.

You think of it as cowardly, but for a person that have thought of suicide, it might already be too much.

I might be an insane man (?), but I know where I stand. He's dead. Leave it at that, fella.

On another note, I would honestly like to ask everyone; what is justice? Not where has justice gone, but what is justice?
__________________
| Excellence | The devil is not so black as he is painted |

| Adventus |
 
01-13-2013   #10 (permalink)
Has Trouble Sleeping
Special
CountBlood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: San Antonio, Texas.
Posts: 1,006
Blog Entries: 2
iTrader: (0)
CountBlood is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to CountBlood
Guild: Red Eclipse
Default

The vilification of suicide has always mystified me. It's your life do whatever you want with it. Also he was facing 30 years in jail for releasing JSTOR documents that later went on the public domain, silly silly.
__________________
"Whats an adventurer to do but rest these feet at home with you?"
 
01-13-2013   #11 (permalink)
kag
meow
kag's Avatar
Games
Asda StoryLunia
Awards MoM Award
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Rodesia
Posts: 2,900
iTrader: (0)
kag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond repute
Class: Dacy lu_dacy
Guild: ForielUnion, OurStory
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CountBlood
The vilification of suicide has always mystified me. It's your life do whatever you want with it. Also he was facing 30 years in jail for releasing JSTOR documents that later went on the public domain, silly silly.
The sad thing is that JSTOR didn't want to prosecute but the prosecutor is the one trying to continue pressing charges against him.

You can read a slightly more elaborate story here by one of his friends.
Lessig Blog, v2
__________________

Fanart Anime/Manga Tees at http://www.facebook.com/metronomist
 
01-15-2013   #12 (permalink)
kag
meow
kag's Avatar
Games
Asda StoryLunia
Awards MoM Award
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Rodesia
Posts: 2,900
iTrader: (0)
kag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond reputekag has a reputation beyond repute
Class: Dacy lu_dacy
Guild: ForielUnion, OurStory
Default

Updates:
Quote:
The family of Aaron Swartz pulled no punches in their comments after the 26-year-old's suicide, blaming a "criminal justice system rife with intimidation and prosecutorial overreach." Assistant United States Attorney Stephen Heymann is one of the individuals that's been named in particular and it turns out Swartz isn't the first subject of a Heymann investigation that's taken his own life. Buzzfeed reports that in 2008 Jonathan James also committed suicide two weeks after having his home raided as part of Heymann's TJX hacker investigation. James was suspected of being "JJ," an unindicted co-conspirator, but claimed to have had nothing to do with the crimes in question.

"I have no faith in the 'justice' system," James wrote in his suicide note. "Perhaps my actions today, and this letter, will send a stronger message to the public. Either way, I have lost control over this situation, and this is my only way to regain control."

In an interview with the Huffington Post, Swartz's attorney Elliot Peters accuses Heymann of pursuing federal charges against his client in order to drum up publicity. The prosecutor was in search of "some juicy looking computer crime cases and Aaron's case, sadly for Aaron, fit the bill," Peters said, remarking that Heymann thought he "was going to receive press and he was going to be a tough guy and read his name in the newspaper."

Peters accuses Heymann of being particularly hardline when negotiating potential plea deals as well, threatening Swartz with increasingly-long prison sentences if the 26-year-old didn't accept what he was being offered. According to Peters, the prosecutor also harassed several of Swartz's friends into testifying in front of a grand jury.

Buzzfeed contacted the US Attorney's Office to get comment from Heymann's office, but was informed by a spokesperson that "It is not appropriate to make a public comment," and that "we want to respect the family's privacy at this time."
Swartz suicide puts the focus on over-aggressive prosecutor | The Verge
__________________

Fanart Anime/Manga Tees at http://www.facebook.com/metronomist

Last edited by kag; 01-15-2013 at 03:35 AM.
 
01-19-2013   #13 (permalink)
Posts when passionate.
Riolu's Avatar
Games
Battle of the ImmortalsFlyFFGrand ChaseLa Tale
Awards Facebook Fan
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: lala land
Posts: 2,024
iTrader: (4)
Riolu has a brilliant futureRiolu has a brilliant futureRiolu has a brilliant futureRiolu has a brilliant futureRiolu has a brilliant futureRiolu has a brilliant futureRiolu has a brilliant futureRiolu has a brilliant futureRiolu has a brilliant futureRiolu has a brilliant futureRiolu has a brilliant future
Send a message via MSN to Riolu
Xfire: riolu
Default

That prosecutor should be laid off for harrassment.

This case shows that some limits should be placed if people are innocent until proven guilty.
__________________
 
01-19-2013   #14 (permalink)
Planeswalker
RoflKnife's Avatar
ggFTW Star
Games
ElswordDungeon Fighter OnlineDragon Nest
Awards Retired Content StaffEvent WinnerPervert Award
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,011
iTrader: (0)
RoflKnife has disabled reputation
Default

In other words, the Attorney will get away scot-free.

Might makes right.
__________________
 

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Pockie Ninja
Need a new browser game?

Try 

Pockie Ninja

Rating:  

8.3
Hide this banner by registering for our community.